• The SH Membership has gone live. Only SH Members have access to post in the classifieds. All members can view the classifieds. Starting in 2020 only SH Members will be admitted to the annual hunting contest. Current members will need to follow these steps to upgrade: 1. Click on your username 2. Click on Account upgrades 3. Choose SH Member and purchase.
  • We've been working hard the past few weeks to come up with some big changes to our vendor policies to meet the changing needs of our community. Please see the new vendor rules here: Vendor Access Area Rules

Oplux and Beal jammy (NO KONG DUCK) question

I use and love the Schwabisch hitch. I is easily one handed operation both with load and unloaded. When releasing the rope when my hand comes off it immediately captures the rope and stops me. I've had the prussic get so tight after a load has been put on it that it's quite difficult to move it. The schwabisch is easy and it allows me to get rid of my ropeman 1's.
 
I use and love the Schwabisch hitch. I is easily one handed operation both with load and unloaded. When releasing the rope when my hand comes off it immediately captures the rope and stops me. I've had the prussic get so tight after a load has been put on it that it's quite difficult to move it. The schwabisch is easy and it allows me to get rid of my ropeman 1's.
I have seen this one used by arborists but haven’t tried it myself. Your recommendation is noted. On the prusik, have you tried “breaking the bar” to unload those stuffy grabs?
 
I use and love the Schwabisch hitch. I is easily one handed operation both with load and unloaded. When releasing the rope when my hand comes off it immediately captures the rope and stops me. I've had the prussic get so tight after a load has been put on it that it's quite difficult to move it. The schwabisch is easy and it allows me to get rid of my ropeman 1's.
What rope do you use to tie it? I would like to try it on oplux.
 
I use it with the open tailed friction hitch that areo sells...and sterling sells the 8mm friction hitch too. I like to have a 28” split tail.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
What I did was get a jammy and cut it. Then tied it directly to my biner. After that I tied it into a Blake’s hitch on my oplux
Does the Beal jammy lose any of its strength doing this. Meaning is having a single section of rope taking 100% of the load make any difference vs having two sections distribute the load when tied in a traditional Prusik?
 
I ordered 2 lengths of oplux 10mm from DanO, 2 Beal jammy’s (longest length, 60) and 4 lightweight biners. Everything should be in by next week.

I am going to try the klemheist (curiosity), then move onto cutting the jammy’s and adding biners and tender to the oplux using distel hitch.

Hopping it works well. Should be substantiallly smaller volume and weight compared to my assault 11mm, armor-prus BD rocklock twist lock biners.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PJC
I ordered 2 lengths of oplux 10mm from DanO, 2 Beal jammy’s (longest length, 60) and 4 lightweight biners. Everything should be in by next week.

I am going to try the klemheist (curiosity), then move onto cutting the jammy’s and adding biners and tender to the oplux using distel hitch.

Hopping it works well. Should be substantiallly smaller volume and weight compared to my assault 11mm, armor-prus BD rocklock twist lock biners.
I do not see 60cm beal jammy's on danO's website. Is that a special request?
 
I ordered 2 lengths of oplux 10mm from DanO, 2 Beal jammy’s (longest length, 60) and 4 lightweight biners. Everything should be in by next week.

I am going to try the klemheist (curiosity), then move onto cutting the jammy’s and adding biners and tender to the oplux using distel hitch.

Hopping it works well. Should be substantiallly smaller volume and weight compared to my assault 11mm, armor-prus BD rocklock twist lock biners.

10mm OpLux ??????
 
8mm oplux and prusik tender from DanO. One end of tender cut off.

Beal jammy, largest size (Amazon), wanted to ensure ability to use distel hitch, so ordered largest size. Not sure if largest size was needed or not.

Black diamond mini pearabiner screw lock carabiner.

14db96a380242f40752a66b294509cb0.file


Distel 4 over 1 hitch. Two ends of jammy not cut and melted yet. Will do after a hunt or two to ensure that the hitch and configuration are working well.

Overall, I am über impressed! Weight and volume are both improved.

Will be posting some comparison pics. Unfortunately, I cannot post multiple pics on same post with free Tapatalk, so there may be multiple posts.
 
I cut the sewn ends off the Beal jammy as they would not work with distel hitch.
 
8mm oplux, largest length Beal jammy w/ sewn end cut off, distel hitch (4 over 1), DanO prusik tender, black diamond mini pearabiner carabiner.

Compared to:

11 mm blue water assault, 8mm armor-prus prusik cord, distel hitch (4 over 1), DIY prusik tender with components bought cheap at Lowe’s dept store, black diamond rock lock twist lock carabiner.

My full setup. I have 2 and use interchangeably as LB or tether. (Caveman simple baby!). Both have about 16 to 17 feet of main cordage. I like to have ability to tether around tree with max 8’ circumference and have extra to back up to RCH Belay loop (from connection to bridge). You most likely will not need or want as much main cordage as I.

984c7447026a90b8ab98238989becda9.file


Former is lighter and less bulky than latter.
 
The extra length used to back up tether (after bridge connection) with an alpine butterfly loop - carabiner - belay loop of RCH.

I do not use ropeman or Kong duck. I do not want to risk main rope damage. If prusik fails (highly unlikely), then I have backup to RCH. If backup and or RCH fail, I guess it will be a personnel meeting I have with my maker I cannot postpone.

c63cac50235e9c7dc486b42731fbe33b.file


eb85947d914911758398c48aa4cedf50.file
 
One last note for now. ...

I tried the klemheist, but it did not stay dressed as well as the distel. When it did not, the klemheist did not catch.

I think it has to do with the combination of ropes and the fact that the distel ends come out at opposing sides. Just my speculation.

In any case, take a look at

https://youtu.be/lyOMzx4thY0

And pay special attention to times 5:30 to 6:15.
See how that prusik slid right down!

Keep those friction hitches dressed nice and tight, test at ground level and be safe!
 
Is a 50cm beal jammy good for a back up to a safeguard or is a hollow block any better?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Back
Top