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Ok....Stupid idea to be tossed out there.......

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7 feet easy


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It is easier to stand on a step and move an aider up than having it attached to a tree


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I hope the picture Lone wolf versa button short stick plus aider


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It is a platform I made when I started saddle hunting. I would re do it Put a cam cleat on it
A @ImThere step on it and 5 mm rope. I would definitely put holes in the tube and use 1/16 6061.


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I would make it likely 8 inches long. That stick is heavily built and is short but not sure how short


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Okay, I need a vid of somebody going up the tree using the multi-aider hooked to a stick. I am really intrigued. Could do the same with only six Steps. I forgot who it is, but one of you are getting like 40 feet using the Steps, and I am guessing one of these aiders. Is it you @Ontariofarmer ?
 
Okay, I need a vid of somebody going up the tree using the multi-aider hooked to a stick. I am really intrigued. Could do the same with only six Steps. I forgot who it is, but one of you are getting like 40 feet using the Steps, and I am guessing one of these aiders. Is it you @Ontariofarmer ?
That is me. And yes, I'm using a multi-step aider.

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Okay, I need a vid of somebody going up the tree using the multi-aider hooked to a stick. I am really intrigued. Could do the same with only six Steps. I forgot who it is, but one of you are getting like 40 feet using the Steps, and I am guessing one of these aiders. Is it you @Ontariofarmer ?
@flinginairos first time.



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I climbed last fall with multistep aiders but my first stick was usually at 110 inches


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That looks heavy today.... things are lightening up quick. It is really not that hard to climb multi step aiders.

Yeah my setup these days is much lighter!! I like the multistep aiders and have never had an issue with them. The green Metolius aider in that video wasn't my favorite, the foot loops didn't stay open far enough. The Black Diamond is much better.
 
Yeah my setup these days is much lighter!! I like the multistep aiders and have never had an issue with them. The green Metolius aider in that video wasn't my favorite, the foot loops didn't stay open far enough. The Black Diamond is much better.
I am sure your spurs are the best way to climb... I can't use them many places here. I think that short stick might have some merit. Easier to attach than a wild edge step. Light. and packable.

Weight loss from my 1.5 pound sticks... I step...88 g and 1/3 of a stick.... 140 g or about .5 pounds ...
You could probably make a staggered double step out of lone wolf steps that would still work and fold up but be about 5 inches apart.
 
The step on top has a LOT of merit. Great point. So, in the effort of keeping this simple enough so the common man (like me) can build this, how about a 3/8" or 1/2" solid aluminum rod going through the square aluminum tube? It would be held in place with cotter pins on both sides of the tube. Although the hole for the pins would be a weak spot so maybe just some non-slip tape wrapped on both ends would do the trick. There is a strength issue to be concerned about with the rods. I am trying to find some info online about them.

I have another idea for fastening, since RS has already tested the whoopie idea. Jam cleats that are used in sailing. Cheap and effective. Just rivet them on to the tube. I just need to see if I can find some that are small enough because I think they would have to go perpendicular to the tubing. I have had catamarans for years and have used and replaced many a jam cleat. Stainless steel rivets are very strong. These things handle some serious loads.

Not sure why I keep thinking about this because I really like the Steps. I guess it is just a good release for the brain, otherwise all I would be thinking about is work.

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The step on top has a LOT of merit. Great point. So, in the effort of keeping this simple enough so the common man (like me) can build this, how about a 3/8" or 1/2" solid aluminum rod going through the square aluminum tube? It would be held in place with cotter pins on both sides of the tube. Although the hole for the pins would be a weak spot so maybe just some non-slip tape wrapped on both ends would do the trick. There is a strength issue to be concerned about with the rods. I am trying to find some info online about them.

I have another idea for fastening, since RS has already tested the whoopie idea. Jam cleats that are used in sailing. Cheap and effective. Just rivet them on to the tube. I just need to see if I can find some that are small enough because I think they would have to go perpendicular to the tubing. I have had catamarans for years and have used and replaced many a jam cleat. Stainless steel rivets are very strong. These things handle some serious loads.

Not sure why I keep thinking about this because I really like the Steps. I guess it is just a good release for the brain, otherwise all I would be thinking about is work.


Jam cleat on a Stepp?
I never used a jam cleat before, doesn't look like it would handle the load. Do they have spec's on them?
 
I don't think any of us have tried the jam cleat. A lot of people have moved to sailing cam cleats out of ease of attachment and mechanism. I don't know if the jam cleat would work with amsteel. Sounds like a fun project. Looking forward to your results.

One thing I've learned using the multi step aiders and mini sticks. If you attach directly to the BOTTOM stick and your foot pushes off the tree, the stick will kick out. This is less of an issue if you attach to the top of the stick or better yet a non issue if you use your tether to climb like I do with my stepps.

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Jam cleat on a Stepp?
I never used a jam cleat before, doesn't look like it would handle the load. Do they have spec's on them?
I guess I misunderstood. I didn't realize you were talking adding these to the stepps.

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