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2016 setups and pics thread

Redfeather said:
Im probably over thinking it looking at it...just seems funny to me for such a simple system attatchment that unhooks so easy could be a safe anchor to descend from..watching a few rappel videos and they always seem to do a back up anchor point.I'm not trying to bash your system in any way. Have you had any slippage using it around the trunk only or do you always pick a tree with a limb as a stopper to keep any slippage from happening...?
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I can tell you that one you put weight on the system, you do not need to have it over a limb, around the trunk is just fine.

Looking at the photo, it does look very odd to me. I am sure there is some sort of side load being applyed to the biner in that position from the tree. I don't think biner's are intended to be used like that, I use a screw link because I know they are ok.
 
I hope no one here is doing any sort of activity in a tree where a biner could be exposed to the force created by a long fall. I think the longest drop for me is during one stick climbing, before I adjust my prussic or ropeman, and its about 2 feet. By rough calcs, I'm nowhere near the side load rating of a biner.

Obviously, safety related items are conservative for a reason, you're planning for the worst possible scenario. But I can't think of a hunting application that you'd need to test the full load rating of a biner...
 
redsquirrel said:
I can tell you that one you put weight on the system, you do not need to have it over a limb, around the trunk is just fine.

Looking at the photo, it does look very odd to me. I am sure there is some sort of side load being applyed to the biner in that position from the tree. I don't think biner's are intended to be used like that, I use a screw link because I know they are ok.
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Gotta remember I'm not putting all my weight into that biner in that pic too. When I slowly transfer my weight it lays flat against the tree with all the force being applied in the major axis. I can't see why that would cause any more stress on it than any other application. But like I said, if I am wrong I will gladly change it. I plan on using a screw link in the future just to be sure.


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flinginairos said:
Gotta remember I'm not putting all my weight into that biner in that pic too. When I slowly transfer my weight it lays flat against the tree with all the force being applied in the major axis. I can't see why that would cause any more stress on it than any other application. But like I said, if I am wrong I will gladly change it. I plan on using a screw link in the future just to be sure.


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To be honest, I just don't know. I've seen some talk that leads me to not want to use a biner like that, so that's why I went with a screw link. Better safe than sorry. This link that @justsomedude had found is a good reference for carabiner use: https://www.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/E...ing-?ActivityName=Mountaineering#.WG0oFPkrJdh
 
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Redfeather said:
In flinginarrows pics, even though he has now changed to a locking caribeaner...it looks semi-side loaded to me, wouldn't that reduce the load rating...? Or am I seeing things wrong..?
Has anyone used a delta ring in place of the ' biner
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That's how I've been playing with it. I didn't use the saddle once yet though while hunting. I plan to try this weekend but will be using the sticks. I need to practice more.
 
You guys make me nervous using those carbines in a cinched configuration better to use a rated maillon rapid quick link much stronger and can't cross load. Also you might consider a rope grab with less aggressive teeth in case of a fall. I come from a rec tree climbing background and please do yourself and your loved ones a favor and use triple action carabiners (arborist style). Not trying to be a know it all but I can pas on a couple things I have learned- gravity is not your friend in a fall.
 
Modified sitdrag, Klein gaffs with upgraded pads(courtesy saddlehunter member), Ropeman1 and locking biners on 11mm rope, Muddy camera arm
 

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suicyderider said:
Modified sitdrag, Klein gaffs with upgraded pads(courtesy saddlehunter member), Ropeman1 and locking biners on 11mm rope, Muddy camera arm
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What's the second ropeman for?

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I like how you attach the slack end of your treestrap to your paw. I usually attach mine to the biner on my bridge, but it makes more sense to go all the way tot he paw. Very cool
 
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