Bow hunting through the orange army

[NMSbowhunter]

Everything around me is large public parcels or large private parcels but private means nothing here if it’s not posted. So consider it all public lol I think my plan will be to go to my spots on thickets in the morning and the. When the sun comes up if there’s no visible sign from the tree I’ll wait it out a little bit then get down and scout through until I either find a spot or the sun sets

Just curious where are you that private is basically public unless it is posted?

 

[Tim0712]

Just curious where are you that private is basically public unless it is posted?

Massachusetts. The law is you can access private. It if your denied permission or asked to leave you have to. And trust me every yahoo around here takes full advantage of it. Long story short if you don’t ask and don’t get seen it’s fair game. Plus 90% of landowners around here don’t care anyways. The hunting around here is tough

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Oh wow, that's interesting. It is not like that here at all. Posted or not, it is not a good idea in the least to be on someone else's land for any reason whatsoever. Being on someone's land here uninvited is generally seen as being one step below getting caught in their living room at 3 am. If you are lucky, they will call the sheriff, if not....

 

[Tim0712]

Oh wow, that's interesting. It is not like that here at all. Posted or not, it is not a good idea in the least to be on someone else's land for any reason whatsoever. Being on someone's land here uninvited is generally seen as being one step below getting caught in their living room at 3 am. If you are lucky, they will call the sheriff, if not....

Trust me I wish that’s how it was here. I get permission on every private parcel I hunt and I loose it when I bend over backwards to get permission and then some A-holes trudge through and ruin my hunt. Happens every single year

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Trust me I wish that’s how it was here. I get permission on every private parcel I hunt and I loose it when I bend over backwards to get permission and then some A-holes trudge through and ruin my hunt. Happens every single year

Man, that stinks.

 

[thedutchtouch]

Trust me I wish that’s how it was here. I get permission on every private parcel I hunt and I loose it when I bend over backwards to get permission and then some A-holes trudge through and ruin my hunt. Happens every single year

Any chance you can try to get permission to post the property for them? Exchange upkeep for the ability to hang "no tresspassing unless carrying written authorization" signs, and then you pay for the signs and put em up/carry a note from landowner with you? Worth a shot potentially, not everyone will agree but someone might.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

Any chance you can try to get permission to post the property for them? Exchange upkeep for the ability to hang "no tresspassing unless carrying written authorization" signs, and then you pay for the signs and put em up/carry a note from landowner with you? Worth a shot potentially, not everyone will agree but someone might.

I was going to suggest something along those lines, but you would have to approach it carefully. I might suggest to the landowner that everyone with permission might sign a "protect and hold blameless" form so that if someone gets hurt out there then the owner would have some protections. Then you could suggest they post it to cover their rear ends. Like I say, it would be risky because they might just think they are taking a chance having anyone out there at all (which they are).

 

[Shed84]

Late season rule #1 food is king. Pressured or unpressured deer need to eat. This is when staying mobile is a must until u find a food source.If I don't already have a particular area scouted or known to be a good late season spot I'll scout/hunt all mourning and midday until I find a food source they are hammering at the time and set up for the afternoon hunt.

 

[HugeBull]

Hey, I am not an attorney but a forester, and I am posting based on NMSbowhunter's post Friday about wanting some protection for landowners that allow folks to hunt on their property. (I sent this to him, and he suggested that I post it for everyone.) Most states have what is known as a recreational use statute (RUS) that provides protection to private property owners that allow others to use their land for recreational purposes but charge no fees for the privilege. Google it with your state referenced, and you can find far more info on line than I can share. On my first try, I even found a post by a Massachusetts attorney describing a real case. The landowner's duty of care is much higher if they charge for the opportunity, like a lease. But, the gist is that landowners are obligated to do very little to keep a user/hunter safe, unless the user pays. Unfortunately, these statutes do not prevent a lawsuit and the cost of defending a lawsuit, but they do edge the balance in favor of the landowner.

So, say a hunter gets hurt while saddle hunting on a landowner's property in a partially dead tree and sues that landowner for not removing the partially dead tree, he will probably lose. However, the landowner will probably have to retain legal counsel and suffer lost time tied up in the case. In other words, the RUS does not protect users from normal things that could happen, and it generally does not protect landowners from the cost of defending even frivolous suits.

In TN, our RUS actually references 18 types of outdoor activities, even stuff with obvious risks, like climbing, firearm shooting, hunting, even riding off-highway vehicles. My guess is that all 50 states have similar laws on the books, though their may be differences from state to state . . .

Hugh

 

[Tim0712]

The freezer was looking bare so I ditched the camo grabbed the orange loaded a smoke pole and used the orange army to my advantage and got down in some pinches yesterday morning. I hate swallowing my pride and setting aside my goals but I hate going hungry even more!

 

[thedutchtouch]

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The freezer was looking bare so I ditched the camo grabbed the orange loaded a smoke pole and used the orange army to my advantage and got down in some pinches yesterday morning. I hate swallowing my pride and setting aside my goals but I hate going hungry even more!

Sounds like you just adjusted your goals and still have something to be proud of to me! Strong work. I'm looking forward to owning a smoke pole in the near future.

 

[Tim0712]

Sounds like you just adjusted your goals and still have something to be proud of to me! Strong work. I'm looking forward to owning a smoke pole in the near future.

I’d rather shoot them with a ML than anything else to be quite honest! You only need one shot! Keep those shotguns and rifles filled up with 5 rounds and guys just shooting to shoot!

 

[bigcat93]

I’ll start this off by saying I’m not part of any orange army I’m a lone wolf all year with the exception of hunting will one good friend and my brother occasionally during gun. This year I set a personal goal to get my first archery deer and it just never fell together right. So I have a question for you guys that strictly bow hunt primarily. What’s your tactics? Shotgun here gets hammered and now that we’re in black powder season the woods get quieter and now I’m gonna break the bow back out and pursue my goal. How do you guys differ your approach once the woods get hammered?

I take that opportunity to try and find a bow-only public spot, especially if it’s surrounded by gun-huntable public that’s even better