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DIY Kestrel Clone

EricS said:
Looks good. I’m sure there would be some kind of copyright issue if you tried to sell it. That’s why you should just give it to me.
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I'm not sure if New Tribe has a patent on the design or not. Either way, it would be bad form on my part to sell them. New Tribe put all of the countless hours of research and development into the Kestrel, not me. I believe Boswell had a great deal to do with the design and my hat's off to him. I'm just a monkey behind a sewing machine. I'm just out to save a few bucks and possibly improve on existing products through my own builds. I've always enjoyed reverse engineering things and trying to make them myself. That being said, I've been known to swap hunting gear with people. LOL!
 
Hopefully I’ll be able to start tackling more diy projects soon, as funds start freeing up over the next year or two.


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@ckossuth

Fantastic work, thanks for sharing pics.

If a fella was to have thoughts on entertaining a different design, one to be sold to mass market, what sewing skill credentials would insurance companies want to reduce liability? Is there some kind of "been trained on yyy" that is accepted as valid creds for competance?

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sureshotscott said:
@ckossuth

Fantastic work, thanks for sharing pics.

If a fella was to have thoughts on entertaining a different design, one to be sold to mass market, what sewing skill credentials would insurance companies want to reduce liability? Is there some kind of "been trained on yyy" that is accepted as valid creds for competance?

Asking for a friend... :)
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I don’t know the answer to that. But given my line of work, I have several attorney friends who would. They’ve always told me “It’s all in the wording” when it comes to writing up legal documentation. By this I mean what would be presented to a prospective insurance provider. Also being a Limited Liability Company (LLC) probably wouldn’t hurt either.

I think the main thing would be to use quality materials and components that are scientifically tested and approved by the Treestand Manufacturers Association (TMA). I think it would be fairly easy to demonstrate, that when properly used, a tree saddle with a lineman’s belt and tree strap is safer than any stand out there.

Just my 2 cents


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I think, though, that the TMA kind of considers saddles to be “persona non grata” in their world. As much as I understand the idea of the organization, it has kind of become an inside joke in the industry. I would almost look more towards UIAA and CE certifications like most of the climbing world does. Testing is typically performed by accredited labs instead of by the organization itself. You could, instead, lean on brand reputation like arborist saddle companies do.
Rather than trying to start up as a one off company, team up with an existing arborist saddle company and use the experience/brand trust of their name to assist in credibility. Also, it is much easier to add a single product to their insurance coverage than to try to get an insurance company to cover your one off, high risk design.....


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IkemanTX said:
I think, though, that the TMA kind of considers saddles to be “persona non grata” in their world. As much as I understand the idea of the organization, it has kind of become an inside joke in the industry. I would almost look more towards UIAA and CE certifications like most of the climbing world does. Testing is typically performed by accredited labs instead of by the organization itself. You could, instead, lean on brand reputation like arborist saddle companies do.
Rather than trying to start up as a one off company, team up with an existing arborist saddle company and use the experience/brand trust of their name to assist in credibility. Also, it is much easier to add a single product to their insurance coverage than to try to get an insurance company to cover your one off, high risk design.....


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I’d say you’re spot on. I never thought about the rock climbing organizations.


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