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Easy Aider by metiolious

bongo said:
Hey Ontariofarmer did you order another of the same foot or other foot.
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Yes. I want to try two to see about a 110 inch move for the first stick.

If I have two aiders I can probably shorten the aiders on the next move and get 90 inches on the next move. I don’t have a second one yet
You could just use a piece of webbing for the second step. And put it on the bottom step of your first stick. But then it would not move up the tree with you


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Ontariofarmer said:
Yes. I want to try two to see about a 110 inch move for the first stick.

If I have two aiders I can probably shorten the aiders on the next move and get 90 inches on the next move. I don’t have a second one yet
You could just use a piece of webbing for the second step. And put it on the bottom step of your first stick. But then it would not move up the tree with you


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Love phones it beeped me. I was asking because I ordered two of them in different colors. Wondering if you would use same color or different because they are for opposite feet gray right purple left thats what I ordered.
 
bongo said:
Love phones it beep me. I was asking because I ordered two in different colors. Wondering if you would same color or different because they are for opposite feet.
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Different colours for different feet.


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I am going to try one stick climbing with that aider too. I wonder if after your initial move you could clip it to your tether and give you greater range of motion to move your stick

A modified SRT

Just crazy thoughts going through my brain.


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bongo said:
Thanks thought maybe I went the wrong way by ordering for different feet.
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Right is grey and left is red. I have not figure out how they are different besides color. When I have them in my hand maybe I will know.
 
Not sure if you get more range of motion but if you drop it you won't be stuck there. Tying off to tether biner that is.
 
bongo said:
Not sure if you get more range of motion but if you drop it you won't be stuck there. Tying off to tether biner that is.
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It would always be attached to your foot so you would not drop it.
When I one stick climb I am always concerned about dropping my stick. That is why I carry a grapple hook and doyles hoist.
 
Roger that. I hate you now I have to look up Doyles hoist and I was bashing somebody on AT. Well looked it up gotta have one. You sir are a bad influence on me.
 
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bongo said:
Roger that. I hate you now I have to look up Doyles hoist and I was bashing somebody on AT. Well looked it up gotta have one.
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Look up gear grappler too. The hate may increase
I expect G2 or Ernie or someone else on this site may have been responsible for me buying those two products. I do not regret buying either and I have regretted buying many things for hunting but not a doyles huntin hoist. Some guys made a cheap grapple using various things. Another option.
Now the aiders I am not sure I need two but I want to experiment. I will be using one aider like this on a stick for sure next year unless someone invents something better.
I like to carry one or two sticks to the woods and get at least 18 feet to my platform. This method will do it. I used a second stick all fall to get 110 inches with a six step aider on my first stick and liked it. I usually got 90 inches on my second stick and then one stick climbed if I had to.. With a platform I was usually 224 inches high. Increasing the distance between steps appeals to me for next year.

When I took a third stick I could easily reach 300 inches. With a modified helium stick each stick weighs just over 2 pounds. With a muddy almost 3 pounds. I Used both.
 
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Ontariofarmer said:
Look up gear grappler too. The hate may increase
I expect G2 or Ernie or someone else on this site may have been responsible for me buying those two products. I do not regret buying either and I have regretted buying many things for hunting but not a doyles huntin hoist.
Now the aiders I am not sure I need two but I want to experiment. I will be using one aider like this on a stick for sure next year unless someone invents something better.
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If you have any trees without limbs I would try the XOP climber top best 80 bucks I’ve spent in a while.


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I would like to try it. Hard to get to Canada for $80. Next time I am travelling south I will think about that. I used a climber in my first two years of hunting. Spurs would be great but there are limited areas I can use them.
 
Ontariofarmer said:
I would like to try it. Hard to get to Canada for $80. Next time I am travelling south I will think about that. I used a climber in my first two years of hunting. Spurs would be great but there are limited areas I can use them.
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I tried to talk Mr Warren into one last night. The nice thing is all you need is your saddle tether and it and it weighs 3 or 4 pounds. Climbing device platform built into one. I’m gona mess with the sticks a little but I used it for three weeks every day except Sunday and I’m sold. It’s really that good and if you rappel down even better.


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How much weight does repelling add - rope and hardware. Just wonder if sticks and aiders are slower but no more weight. From what I understand spurs weigh 6 pounds and then you need rope and hardware if you repel.
If I got a climber seat I would probably use it to come down. I always found climbers easy to use.
Repelling sounds like fun though. I have trouble raising my left arm above my head due to shoulder issues so I have wondered if I could safely repel. I wish I had time to go to saddlepalooza and have someone show me how to do it and I could see if I could do it.
Saddlepalooza expenses could be justified by trying other guys equipment such as a size 2 kestrel, SRT, repelling gear... etc.
Too many family health issues to consider going to saddlepalooza and I don't know if foreigners like me could hunt there anyway.
 
Ontariofarmer said:
How much weight does repelling add - rope and hardware. Just wonder if sticks and aiders are slower but no more weight. From what I understand spurs weigh 6 pounds and then you need rope and hardware if you repel.
If I got a climber seat I would probably use it to come down. I always found climbers easy to use.
Repelling sounds like fun though. I have trouble raising my left arm above my head due to shoulder issues so I have wondered if I could safely repel. I wish I had time to go to saddlepalooza and have someone show me how to do it and I could see if I could do it.
Saddlepalooza expenses could be justified by trying other guys equipment such as a size 2 kestrel, SRT, repelling gear... etc.
Too many family health issues to consider going to saddlepalooza and I don't know if foreigners like me could hunt there anyway.
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Your tether goes to 35 or 40' and rappel device less than a pound enough paracord to pull down your tether. Maybe 3 to 5 pounds. But no platform no sticks if you don't want to rappel down climbing down is easier than up. The only drawback i've found is having to adjust seat for tree diameter larger at bottom smaller at top. So just like a climber you have to make traction belt smaller. And like one sticking you have to hang in saddle to adjust traction belt. Another thing I always think about when using sticks is slipping and gutting myself on the steps. Have never heard of anyone doing it but I have slipped before and had them kick out so it's real. I'm not scarred of them but I like the seat better and have used both. With all that being said I am going to sell my spurs because I just don't use them.
 
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bongo said:
Your tether goes to 35 or 40' and rappel devise less than a pound enough paracord to pull down your tether. Maybe 3 to 5 pounds. But no platform no sticks if you don't want to rappel down climbing down is easier than up. The only drawback i've found is having to adjust seat for tree diameter larger at bottom smaller at top. So just like a climber you have to make traction belt smaller. And like one sticking you have to hang in saddle to adjust traction belt. Another thing I always think about when using sticks is slipping and gutting myself on the steps. Have never heard of anyone doing it but I have slipped before and had them kick out so it's real. I'm not scarred of them but I like the seat better and have used both. With all that being said I am going to sell my spurs because I just don't use them.
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I have had sticks kick out but not lately. I always make sure they are tight and seated correctly.


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Ontariofarmer said:
How much weight does repelling add - rope and hardware. Just wonder if sticks and aiders are slower but no more weight. From what I understand spurs weigh 6 pounds and then you need rope and hardware if you repel.
If I got a climber seat I would probably use it to come down. I always found climbers easy to use.
Repelling sounds like fun though. I have trouble raising my left arm above my head due to shoulder issues so I have wondered if I could safely repel. I wish I had time to go to saddlepalooza and have someone show me how to do it and I could see if I could do it.
Saddlepalooza expenses could be justified by trying other guys equipment such as a size 2 kestrel, SRT, repelling gear... etc.
Too many family health issues to consider going to saddlepalooza and I don't know if foreigners like me could hunt there anyway.
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After I reread this had to add that to rappel you don't need hands over your head. But to climb with saddle and climber seat when you advance your tether you want to reach as high as possible on the tree. So your standing on platform tether eye level slide ropeman as far down the tether as possible. Then you slide tether as high on tree as you can reach down pull on tag end of tether till its tight while standing on tip toes. Then just pick your feet up as high as possible stand up and start over.
I would like to build one with a cable like Summit uses instead of traction belt i'm sure it would slide up the tree much easier. But for right out of the box the XOP works fine. I'm getting another one for backup shortly. Also wet slick trees don't matter because your on the platform.
 
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I tried two of these aiders together. I think it becomes too cluttered. I did measure my first step and yes it was about 33 inches with the second about 26 inches. I could pull my foot up that far. It did not seem hard or challenging.
I am going to try a fix step of 25 inches hung off the bottom of my first step to get 110 inches.
I don't recommend buying two. But I do like one. If you don't feel safe going 33 inches the first step just reduce the distance.
Coming down I increase the first step to just over 30 inches and that seems like no problem.
Maybe Red's idea of just carrying a couple of extra cranford steps is okay too but use a tether aider with them to gain height.
After trying this aider I really like having that foot secure. The tree was not slippery today and the aider was super stable.

I did climb with a multi step aider all fall and feel comfortable with aiders. It may not be for everyone. I want more height less bulk so this is why I keep trying.
 
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