Everything cam cleats

[Ontariofarmer]

I'll check on the screw size when I get home tonight but I'm 100% confident I have the medium size cleats. It's just been a while since I installed them.

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Thanks You have used them longer than most of us and you weigh the same as me. Very interested to know.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Don't drill them out. It worked great on the first one, but I noticed it was a tight fit. The second one I tried busted so I won't try it again. This is why I'm so hung up on making sure I use safe hardware with them.

I ordered some small hex head bolts... I forget the name but they are supposed to be stronger than regular number 10's or 3/16 bolts...

Instead of counter sinking the bolt I might try to grind the inner edge to a v shape so the will fit the v in the top of the cam cleat.

Yup I want to be safe and light. It is tough to know how to do both when you are not an engineer. I am thinking that I will probably have the lightest version of whatever stick I make and use it at the bottom of the tree next year. I will use the heavier versions on the next two sticks until I am confident. I think there is a back up to the cam cleat if you have two half hitches so I am less worried about that than carbon fiber sticks and drilled out 1/16 wall aluminium

 

[Arkrider]

Thanks You have used them longer than most of us and you weigh the same as me. Very interested to know.

You can use either 10-24 or 5mm. I currently have them installed with 10-24 but 5mm will work also. In the picture the black screw on the right is 5mm and the stainless steel screw on the left is 10-24. I can't tell that one has anymore slack over the other. The difference is so small, I used a caliper to try and get a real measurement and I'm still not sure there is any difference.

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[Windwalker]

Built these lone wolf minis with Harken 150 and 1/4" amsteel couldn' be happier

 

[sdonx]

Built these lone wolf minis with Harken 150 and 1/4" amsteel couldn' be happier

Great thread- I bought these off eBay for $12.90 each.

I'm not fully understanding how to attach the 1/4" am steel to the stick. I read above that you drill a hole in the stick I think? Vertical hole?
It would need to be bushed so as not to tear the rope? Good idea if the stick can structurally handle a vertical hole.
I was thinking of splicing a loop and possibly running one side under the cam and squish it.


Nautos item # 91025

Composite cam cleat

FITS OTHER BRAND HOLES
ROPE 5 MM TO 10 MM
HOLES CC 38 MM (1.49")
WORKING LOAD 240 LBS
BREAKING LOAD 500 LBS

 

[ImThere]

Great thread- I bought these off eBay for $12.90 each.

I'm not fully understanding how to attach the 1/4" am steel to the stick. I read above that you drill a hole in the stick I think? Vertical hole?
It would need to be bushed so as not to tear the rope? Good idea if the stick can structurally handle a vertical hole.
I was thinking of splicing a loop and possibly running one side under the cam and squish it.


Nautos item # 91025

Composite cam cleat

FITS OTHER BRAND HOLES
ROPE 5 MM TO 10 MM
HOLES CC 38 MM (1.49")
WORKING LOAD 240 LBS
BREAKING LOAD 500 LBS

That’s cheap


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[Babshaft]

Great thread- I bought these off eBay for $12.90 each.

I'm not fully understanding how to attach the 1/4" am steel to the stick. I read above that you drill a hole in the stick I think? Vertical hole?
It would need to be bushed so as not to tear the rope? Good idea if the stick can structurally handle a vertical hole.
I was thinking of splicing a loop and possibly running one side under the cam and squish it.


Nautos item # 91025

Composite cam cleat

FITS OTHER BRAND HOLES
ROPE 5 MM TO 10 MM
HOLES CC 38 MM (1.49")
WORKING LOAD 240 LBS
BREAKING LOAD 500 LBS

Wow that's a good price. How are they?

 

[sdonx]

Not sure yet im still building my sticks. They seem very light - i will weigh tomorrow and let you guys know. But the test will be when i get them installed and start jumping around on them.


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[Ontariofarmer]

Great thread- I bought these off eBay for $12.90 each.

I'm not fully understanding how to attach the 1/4" am steel to the stick. I read above that you drill a hole in the stick I think? Vertical hole?
It would need to be bushed so as not to tear the rope? Good idea if the stick can structurally handle a vertical hole.
I was thinking of splicing a loop and possibly running one side under the cam and squish it.


Nautos item # 91025

Composite cam cleat

FITS OTHER BRAND HOLES
ROPE 5 MM TO 10 MM
HOLES CC 38 MM (1.49")
WORKING LOAD 240 LBS
BREAKING LOAD 500 LBS

That is a good price.. The same size roughly as a ronstan medium cam cleat... just over an inch high which can be a little harder to stack the sticks together.

 

[sdonx]

38 grains- 1.3 oz
On stacking I was thinking of possibly installing the cleats on the side of the stick.

 

[Arkrider]

38 grains- 1.3 oz
On stacking I was thinking of possibly installing the cleats on the side of the stick.

What brand/model stick do you have?

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[sdonx]

I am making my own, sort of copying Bowhunter15 but with an Ironworker machine.

 

[Babshaft]

I am making my own, sort of copying Bowhunter15 but with an Ironworker machine.

That sounds wicked man! Can’t wait to see them!

 

[Ontariofarmer]

38 grains- 1.3 oz
On stacking I was thinking of possibly installing the cleats on the side of the stick.

Let us know if it works. If it does that would be fantastic


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[ImThere]

38 grains- 1.3 oz
On stacking I was thinking of possibly installing the cleats on the side of the stick.

That’s outside the box. Wouldn’t the rope be pulling on the cam cleat the wrong direction? I wonder if it will try to twist? Bring it back under to half hitch?


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[PJC]

Go around the stick first then through the cam cleat?


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[River Hunter]

I am getting one of each of these today from Amazon:
Mizugiwa Fast Entry Cam Cleat
$15.99

Schaefer Fast Entry Cam Cleat
$24.90

I plan to install these on my 17" Leverage sticks and see which I like best.
The Leverage sticks with the stock set up weigh 2lbs 5 ounces.
If I remove the cam strap and the bracket the strap attaches to they are 1lb 8 ounces.

So even adding a cam cleat (3 ounces or so) and some 5mm Amsteel rope, this should still be under 2 pounds.

 

[PJC]

I am getting one of each of these today from Amazon:
Mizugiwa Fast Entry Cam Cleat
$15.99

Schaefer Fast Entry Cam Cleat
$24.90

I plan to install these on my 17" Leverage sticks and see which I like best.
The Leverage sticks with the stock set up weigh 2lbs 5 ounces.
If I remove the cam strap and the bracket the strap attaches to they are 1lb 8 ounces.

So even adding a cam cleat (3 ounces or so) and some 5mm Amsteel rope, this should still be under 2 pounds.

Keep us posted on how they work.

 

[PJC]

I've got a brand new set of Helium sticks I want to modify this winter. I'd love to use the cam cleats instead of a versa button. I didn't know there was so much to consider when using a cam cleat. I'll be paying close attention to this thread.

 

[Arkrider]

38 grains- 1.3 oz
On stacking I was thinking of possibly installing the cleats on the side of the stick.

I've never tried it but I've certainly thought about it. I would recommend a wedge base for the cam cleat, then wrap the rope behind the stick and tie to the opposite side with two half hitch loops. Here's a couple of pics of wedges. I think there's a variety of angles and height available. These pics came from Harken's website but I believe most cam cleat manufacturers offer them.

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