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Input wanted for the next Aero Hunter model

Boudreaux

Boudreaux

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All right guys, its no secret that Aero Hunter will be releasing a new model soon. One feature that every one has been asking for is quick release leg straps, so no more fishing muddy boot through the straps. This will be a feature in the next model, here is the question. Which type of buckle would you rather see?

The first is a 94 gram Klick lock buckle, these are very simple to work but have a little noise to them
http://www.iscwales.com/Products/Bu...lick-lock-Buckle-25mm-Sliding-Tang-Set/14603/

The second, would be a 3 bar slider with a square link. These are similar to what is used on some safety harness as the QR on the legs. Basically the 3 bar section would fit through the square link. These would be lighter, but a little harder to work in the dark or with cold fingers. Similar to these.
http://www.iscwales.com/Products/Buckles-Components/BU102-45mm-3-Bar-Slide/3398/
http://www.iscwales.com/Products/Buckles-Components/BL121-45mm-Square-Link/3400/

I have used them both on different prototypes and I like them both, so its up to you guys, give us some input on which style you would like to see.

Thanks,
Boswell
 
Boudreaux said:
All right guys, its no secret that Aero Hunter will be releasing a new model soon. One feature that every one has been asking for is quick release leg straps, so no more fishing muddy boot through the straps. This will be a feature in the next model, here is the question. Which type of buckle would you rather see?

The first is a 94 gram Klick lock buckle, these are very simple to work but have a little noise to them
http://www.iscwales.com/Products/Bu...lick-lock-Buckle-25mm-Sliding-Tang-Set/14603/

The second, would be a 3 bar slider with a square link. These are similar to what is used on some safety harness as the QR on the legs. Basically the 3 bar section would fit through the square link. These would be lighter, but a little harder to work in the dark or with cold fingers. Similar to these.
http://www.iscwales.com/Products/Buckles-Components/BU102-45mm-3-Bar-Slide/3398/
http://www.iscwales.com/Products/Buckles-Components/BL121-45mm-Square-Link/3400/

I have used them both on different prototypes and I like them both, so its up to you guys, give us some input on which style you would like to see.

Thanks,
Boswell
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The klick lock looks to me what I would want. I think you could add or remove clothing in the tree with that buckle.
 
Klick type,no doubt.
I have a harness with the H type leg straps (a regular treestand safety harness) that I have owned and used for several years.
I have on a few different occasions had the H bar work through the square bar,leaving a strap disconnected.
Now I will say that this happened when I wore the harness UNDER clothing,and that certainly is how the disconnect
was caused.(As a side note,I do this at times when using a climbing stand because the waist and leg straps sometimes hang up on the top of the climber when sit/standing to climb,so I put harness on under pants) But the fact is if you do not keep tension on the connector,there is a possibility of it slipping through if rubbed against anything,so for that reason alone I would not use it.That may be why the safety harness manufacturer went to the Klick type buckles,and I have not seen the H bar type on any newer harness's.
Just my opinion.
 
Boswell, I'd go with the 3 bar slider. They can be a pain, but they're used in all construction safety harnesses for a reason. If interlocked properly, it's a bullet proof system that needs no maintenance and can't be accidentally undone easily. SAFETY OVER CONVENIENCE.
 
I like safety too but having two legs straps come undone is highly unlikely and even if they did I doubt it would result in a fall. Convenience in this case trumps safety.
 
I personally think the addition of buckles for the leg straps is kind of a silly idea. I am typically all about upgrades, but this one makes no sense to me. For safety I would rather have them hard lined to the harness ( not to mention those who will disconnect them while 30 feet up to be "comfortable and risk falling), for stealth sake I feel that by adding more metal-to-metal connections will add even more unwanted noise ;defeating the whole purpose of the advances thus far on this saddle for stealth ,and finally are you really that afraid of getting a little mud on your harness. Just saying
 
I'm not much help, as I haven't used an Aero yet. But, I think any company that goes straight to the end users for input like this (especially end users as actively focused on improvement as this forum) is impressive.
I like the idea of buckles on the leg loops. I am forever getting my heel stuck stepping into harnesses. Buckles are much more convenient.


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IkemanTX said:
I'm not much help, as I haven't used an Aero yet. But, I think any company that goes straight to the end users for input like this (especially end users as actively focused on improvement as this forum) is impressive.
I like the idea of buckles on the leg loops. I am forever getting my heel stuck stepping into harnesses. Buckles are much more convenient.


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I agree that a company who goes to the end user is a legit company. That is why I bought my Aero Hunter Evo straight from New Tribe.
 
red2delta said:
I personally think the addition of buckles for the leg straps is kind of a silly idea. I am typically all about upgrades, but this one makes no sense to me. For safety I would rather have them hard lined to the harness ( not to mention those who will disconnect them while 30 feet up to be "comfortable and risk falling), for stealth sake I feel that by adding more metal-to-metal connections will add even more unwanted noise ;defeating the whole purpose of the advances thus far on this saddle for stealth ,and finally are you really that afraid of getting a little mud on your harness. Just saying
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I don't think you would be adding much more metal because you would replace the leg strap adjustment which is metal with the buckle. I like the idea of a buckle. A few times I wished I could add rain gear while hunting. That may be possible with a buckle. Also I am sure that an aero with no leg straps would be just as safe as the sit drag and probably safer. IMO
 
Click type. Is safety really a factor? Don't a lot of you guys not even use the legs straps?
 
lpv77 said:
Click type. Is safety really a factor? Don't a lot of you guys not even use the legs straps?
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I don't have leg straps and have even had a fall arrested. I can't see click buckles not being safe considering the design of the saddle.


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Ontariofarmer said:
I don't think you would be adding much more metal because you would replace the leg strap adjustment which is metal with the buckle. I like the idea of a buckle. A few times I wished I could add rain gear while hunting. That may be possible with a buckle. Also I am sure that an aero with no leg straps would be just as safe as the sit drag and probably safer. IMO
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I guess that is true for the rain gear addition. Those "cobra" type buckles do make a sound tho, because where they clip together is metal on metal and they have play in them. But i could be wrong, never used the specific one they mentioned. Proper sit drag setups also incorporate the user wearing a climbing harness connected to a static line. The sit drag is not used for fall prevention, whereas the Evo is. I saw some other rock climbing harnesses with buckles on the leg straps and they looked pretty fancy. I could see the small conveniences of being able to buckle and unbuckle them but I am not so sure the trade off is worth it.
Who knows, maybe I am wrong and will consider the upgrade after enough user reviews and input.
 
red2delta said:
I personally think the addition of buckles for the leg straps is kind of a silly idea. I am typically all about upgrades, but this one makes no sense to me.
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I don't think they are needed, but it's our number one requested option. I use them to put the saddle on, but not to take it off.

lpv77 said:
Click type. Is safety really a factor? Don't a lot of you guys not even use the legs straps?
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Safety is the only factor, at Aero Hunter our goal is to make the safest most user friendly, versatile hunting saddle on the market.

Thanks,
Boswell
 
Quick-release style buckles would be better than having to fish the bar slide through the square link. Plus i could see the square links clanking if they are not pulled taught.
 
d_rek said:
Quick-release style buckles would be better than having to fish the bar slide through the square link. Plus i could see the square links clanking if they are not pulled taught.
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Rubber coating is an easy remedt
 
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