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Recall on some BlackDiamond biners!

Great discussion. I work with a local arborist who showed me the difference between a locking and non-locking carbiner. He twisted the rope around and very easily the rope pushed against the gate and the carbiner popped out. Then he showed me the same twist with a locking carbiner and it would not open up. I was amazed at how easily this could happen. While the breaking strength of the carbiner can be strong enough, the weakness of a gate being able to be pushed open during a fall that you have no control of is a chance I would not want to take.
 
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1saddleguy said:
Great discussion. I work with a local arborist who showed me the difference between a locking and non-locking carbiner. He twisted the rope around and very easily the rope pushed against the gate and the carbiner popped out. Then he showed me the same twist with a locking carbiner and it would not open up. I was amazed at how easily this could happen. While the breaking strength of the carbiner can be strong enough, the weakness of a gate being able to be pushed open during a fall that you have no control of is a chance I would not want to take.
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This is exactly why I use locking carabiners everywhere. I don't want one accidentally opening. I even went so far as to get auto locking ones rather than twist because I get freaked out if I forget to twist the lock closed.

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1saddleguy said:
Great discussion. I work with a local arborist who showed me the difference between a locking and non-locking carbiner. He twisted the rope around and very easily the rope pushed against the gate and the carbiner popped out. Then he showed me the same twist with a locking carbiner and it would not open up. I was amazed at how easily this could happen. While the breaking strength of the carbiner can be strong enough, the weakness of a gate being able to be pushed open during a fall that you have no control of is a chance I would not want to take.
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that. Any chance you could put a quick video together showing how that happens?
 
I'll see if he has a video showing it. If he doesn't then I can get him to show me while I video him the next time he comes in. I don't think I could show it like him and have not tried to replicate his demonstration but now you make me want to. Maybe I'll try it tonight.
 
1saddleguy said:
I'll see if he has a video showing it. If he doesn't then I can get him to show me while I video him the next time he comes in. I don't think I could show it like him and have not tried to replicate his demonstration but now you make me want to. Maybe I'll try it tonight.
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Thanks!
 
Thought I would try to post a video showing it. Not sure if you can load straight to saddlehunter or if you do a youtube link.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB2fFPwpnXw
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I know that this would be a perfect storm but in an uncontrolled fall anything can happen.
 
BassBoysLLP said:
These biners came with the newer webs. Butch sent out a letter last week
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i bought mine last october so I am assuming that mine came with the defective ones...I will inspect to be sure but got to get on it...guido time is fast approaching!
 
flinginairos said:
Saw this over on Archerytalk and thought I would pass the info along!!

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are the ones you had me order on there?
 
Good heads-up. I just checked all my gates and lockers, all are good.

Thanks for the Info. In fact, the evaluation info appears to be good for checking any & all biners.
 
I have a positron screwgate bought a few years ago that I am using. Will check it when I get home.
 
essdub said:
Anything can happen, we just have to be aware of and try to minimize the dangers.
I try to keep a secondary safety in place at all times, but you just never know. The dang tree could fall.
Be careful and have fun.

Shaun.
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Been there before! Two seasons ago, I was up a tree in a Summit and locked in before I realized "there's too much sway in this tree when the wind blows." I dont think I've ever prayed that hard nor shot down a tree as fast as I did in that situation. Check your trees!
 
Thanks for posting. I have a couple of the screwgate models. Now I know how to check to see if they are in the recall or nor.

Cheers!
 
I had a stick pop off using the rope mod... tether caught me. Stay frosty my friends
 
Hogwild2004 said:
Wow dude - glad you are safe!
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Yeah it held going up and popped coming down
Tree was big enough around that I didn't have a ton of spare rope and the tail pulled through
Only dropped a couple inches and caught the stick, still iffy getting it tied back on in the dark to get down
 
Black diamond told me that their gear is not for trees. Rocks and snow only. The author of the response included She/her in her signature. I feel like they aren’t really with us on the saddle hunting.
 
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