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Wild Edge Stepps platform

Peterk1234 said:
@swampsnyper I spent some time this afternoon with the steps. I paid no attention to getting them lined up and as a result I learned a couple of things. BTW, I do not want to hijack your thread, so sorry for going a bit sideways. My order is different from yours when setting the three steps.

I did the first step, then shifted it to the left and cammed it. Then I did number two. I put the rope through number one, and I ran the rope under rope number one. Shifted it to the right and cammed it over. These two seem to just automatically line up with each other. The legs of number two easily set above the rope of number one. Number three was threaded through both. But, pushed the rope of number three to the bottom of the rungs of one and two so it I could cam it over easy and not have the other ropes come into play. It took a couple of minutes tops to do the whole thing.

Interesting result. The staggered steps is actually very comfortable because the heels of both feet are placed on the lower step and the balls or toes are on the higher steps. It provided more even pressure on my feet and less flexing of the ankles when hanging. I was actually a bit disappointed because I have invested about 100 bucks in 20 of those corner brackets, and now I am torn as to which I like better.

I spent a lot of time standing on both today. I also figured out that placing my corner brackets close enough that a foot can rest on two of them makes a huge difference in comfort. Both systems were very comfortable but the edge goes to the steps because their width, various curves and angles and just superior firmness really allows you to get into some difficult positions. They just do not move. You can really put as much force as you want against them.

So, this is a long ass way of saying if you can perfect the system, it will be huge. However, just staggering the damn things is plenty easy. Each rope that gets threaded through a cammed step goes below the other rope(s). Finish with the one in front of you, setting the legs of the step below the other ropes.

One question about your setup; how does it react to a lot of side pressure?

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I have been setting mine exactly the same way. I also find the middle being a little lower is really comfortable.
 
Peterk1234 said:
@swampsnyper I spent some time this afternoon with the steps. I paid no attention to getting them lined up and as a result I learned a couple of things. BTW, I do not want to hijack your thread, so sorry for going a bit sideways. My order is different from yours when setting the three steps.

I did the first step, then shifted it to the left and cammed it. Then I did number two. I put the rope through number one, and I ran the rope under rope number one. Shifted it to the right and cammed it over. These two seem to just automatically line up with each other. The legs of number two easily set above the rope of number one. Number three was threaded through both. But, pushed the rope of number three to the bottom of the rungs of one and two so it I could cam it over easy and not have the other ropes come into play. It took a couple of minutes tops to do the whole thing.

Interesting result. The staggered steps is actually very comfortable because the heels of both feet are placed on the lower step and the balls or toes are on the higher steps. It provided more even pressure on my feet and less flexing of the ankles when hanging. I was actually a bit disappointed because I have invested about 100 bucks in 20 of those corner brackets, and now I am torn as to which I like better.

I spent a lot of time standing on both today. I also figured out that placing my corner brackets close enough that a foot can rest on two of them makes a huge difference in comfort. Both systems were very comfortable but the edge goes to the steps because their width, various curves and angles and just superior firmness really allows you to get into some difficult positions. They just do not move. You can really put as much force as you want against them.

So, this is a long ass way of saying if you can perfect the system, it will be huge. However, just staggering the damn things is plenty easy. Each rope that gets threaded through a cammed step goes below the other rope(s). Finish with the one in front of you, setting the legs of the step below the other ropes.

One question about your setup; how does it react to a lot of side pressure?

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No hijacking here. These responses and experiments are what I wanted to start.
Under side pressure, they are the most solid ring of steps I’ve tried.
 

That’s not gonna work if it’s just one single point of contact to the main step’s rope. It will want to twist with side pressure. It needs to connect to the main rope from each side of the step you are trying to set. When I attached it with 2 carabiners and they would start sliding to the center of the middle rung, it wasn’t as secure as when they were spread as wide as possible.
 
@swampsnyper , you have been too quiet, any updates? I have been playing around with both my bracket platform with ratchet and the steps as a platform. The brackets are winning in the ease of setup department. You need to perfect your system :) Pete
 
Peterk1234 said:
@swampsnyper , you have been too quiet, any updates? I have been playing around with both my bracket platform with ratchet and the steps as a platform. The brackets are winning in the ease of setup department. You need to perfect your system :) Pete
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Digging a basement. No time for that.

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Is this for your house? If so are you building yourself or contacting it out?
 
Really interesting thread here and I have been trying to figure out what climbing method I want to use once my saddle arrives in May. I am brand new to this but being from Maine I am partial to using the Jim Stepp system that Wild Edge now sells. Any advice for a beginner on getting into saddle shape ?
 
Brandon Bell-Colfer said:
Really interesting thread here and I have been trying to figure out what climbing method I want to use once my saddle arrives in May. I am brand new to this but being from Maine I am partial to using the Jim Stepp system that Wild Edge now sells. Any advice for a beginner on getting into saddle shape ?
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Just practice practice practice. Sit in saddle while playing on saddle hunter. Climb higher to sit if the wife is looking for you.
 
swampsnyper said:
I came up with a good system to install easy. Just need a better way to attach or hook to the main line. I wanted the system to be able to put one step on at a time. One carabiner in the middle of the cross brace worked ok but had a little rocking from side to side. It needs to be supported from each side like the original rope does to be solid. 2 carabiners work well and my be the way I go. I wish the soft shackles were easier. Would be tough with gloves. A hook tied around the cross bar and wrapped around the side rung like the wild edge rope, dipped in plasti dip would be nice. Anyone know of a small hook rated enough to be safe for this application. Maybe a chain link. Hmmmmmm

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Bobby Boswell welded some chain links on a set a few years ago. You might check with him.


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Gents, I love how you guys think. I just received my Stepps, but haven't used them yet. As someone suggested above, just use three steps with the two end steps being slightly higher than the central one. Looks like a great idea. It appears that you are struggling with getting the stepps attached without pinching the other two stepps ropes. Has anyone tried replacing the original ropes with amsteel ropes which will be smaller/less bulky and possibly lighter and more quiet. If so, do any of you know if the amsteel rope will work with the same knot suggested with the Wild Edge Stepps? If so, what diameter amsteel have you be using? Although amsteel is wickedly strong I'm concerned that if I replace the original ropes with amsteel it may be too thin and slippery to allow the suggested Wild Edge Stepp knot to work reliably.
 
Aerial Hunter said:
Gents, I love how you guys think. I just received my Stepps, but haven't used them yet. As someone suggested above, just use three steps with the two end steps being slightly higher than the central one. Looks like a great idea. It appears that you are struggling with getting the stepps attached without pinching the other two stepps ropes. Has anyone tried replacing the original ropes with amsteel ropes which will be smaller/less bulky and possibly lighter and more quiet. If so, do any of you know if the amsteel rope will work with the same knot suggested with the Wild Edge Stepps? If so, what diameter amsteel have you be using? Although amsteel is wickedly strong I'm concerned that if I replace the original ropes with amsteel it may be too thin and slippery to allow the suggested Wild Edge Stepp knot to work reliably.
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If you go on the wild edge sight Andrew shows how to do the ring of wild steps , it takes a bit of practice but if you do it right you won't clip the ropes.
I wouldn't do the ring with the amsteel it is not as durable as the rope that comes with the WE steps if you do clip the WE rope, it has plenty of strands.

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Mike Nutto said:
If you go on the wild edge sight Andrew shows how to do the ring of wild steps , it takes a bit of practice but if you do it right you won't clip the ropes.
I wouldn't do the ring with the amsteel it is not as durable as the rope that comes with the WE steps if you do clip the WE rope, it has plenty of strands.[/QUOT

Thank you for your reply. I've seen Andrews excellent video and I'm convinced that with practice its not a big deal. I was most interested in swapping the original WidEdge ropes with the amsteel because it so much less bulky and because I'm interested in practicing my newly learned skills splicing amsteel.
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