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XOP Climber seat as climber and platform?

The down side to my LW sit and climb is the belt adjustment. When its cold out, it can be tough to cam over the locking paws. Mine have rope on them to aid in grabbing them, still can be tough. The other issue is I never seem to be able to climb 25ft without having to adjust the belts at least once. With the sit and climb, I have been way up and sitting while lifting the platform and adjusting it. I bet hanging from a harness would be much easier. I should just order one of these hand climbers already. :D
 
The down side to my LW sit and climb is the belt adjustment. When its cold out, it can be tough to cam over the locking paws. Mine have rope on them to aid in grabbing them, still can be tough. The other issue is I never seem to be able to climb 25ft without having to adjust the belts at least once. With the sit and climb, I have been way up and sitting while lifting the platform and adjusting it. I bet hanging from a harness would be much easier. I should just order one of these hand climbers already. :D
I'm lost.
 
I'm lost.

if you've never used a climbing stand you can probably go watch countless videos on youtube about climbers. Its basically what we are doing here. Just the lightest climber out there, but with their downsides (limbs, adjustments)
 
The down side to my LW sit and climb is the belt adjustment. When its cold out, it can be tough to cam over the locking paws. Mine have rope on them to aid in grabbing them, still can be tough. The other issue is I never seem to be able to climb 25ft without having to adjust the belts at least once. With the sit and climb, I have been way up and sitting while lifting the platform and adjusting it. I bet hanging from a harness would be much easier. I should just order one of these hand climbers already. :D

I'm finding myself adjusting 4-5 times up the tree. I do small one or two notch adjustments because Ive read if these belts are too tight its tough to climb and they hang up easier, so I just try to keep the stand flat.
With the xop the cam has worked easy so far (haven't had it out below 30 though) and once I figured out where the notch needed to be for the cam to grab it, it takes me a few seconds to do
 
if you've never used a climbing stand you can probably go watch countless videos on youtube about climbers. Its basically what we are doing here. Just the lightest climber out there, but with their downsides (limbs, adjustments)

I'm trying to follow. So you use the climber seat to climb, putting your feet into modified straps and sitting in your sling while pulling feet up to reset the hand climbing seat higher on the tree. Standing up and resetting the tether then sitting and repeating. I guess I'm not following the cam down part. That's after you reach hunting height and want to use it as a platform, correct?
Is there then a modification to cam it down?


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yeah that bar ive got bolted to the back of my climber is what I'm trying to use for locking the platform down at hunting height.
 
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I'm trying to follow. So you use the climber seat to climb, putting your feet into modified straps and sitting in your sling while pulling feet up to reset the hand climbing seat higher on the tree. Standing up and resetting the tether then sitting and repeating. I guess I'm not following the cam down part. That's after you reach hunting height and want to use it as a platform, correct?
Is there then a modification to cam it down?


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When he says cam down, he means lock the belt into place. There is a lever that you lock into the bar on each side that locks the belt into place.
 
When he says cam down, he means lock the belt into place. There is a lever that you lock into the bar on each side that locks the belt into place.

Oh. Ok. So what's the modification kit supposed to be for?
Maybe I didn't mix up threads. Are we talking about two different platforms in this thread? I need to go back and start over.


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Oh. Ok. So what's the modification kit supposed to be for?
Maybe I didn't mix up threads. Are we talking about two different platforms in this thread? I need to go back and start over.


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I may have mixed something up myself. He may be cam'ing down his platform since he has modified the climbing platform.

The original thread is about just the xop hand climber seat being used as a climber and platform. @sb220 has mounted something to his to try to make it act like one of the hang on platforms after he climbs with it.
The other thread is about the platforms only. @Erniepower has made the kit to convert the xop treestand seat into a platform.

Clear as mud? Lol
 
I may have mixed something up myself. He may be cam'ing down his platform since he has modified the climbing platform.

The original thread is about just the xop hand climber seat being used as a climber and platform. @sb220 has mounted something to his to try to make it act like one of the hang on platforms after he climbs with it.
The other thread is about the platforms only. @Erniepower has made the kit to convert the xop treestand seat into a platform.

Clear as mud? Lol
Yes, I think you got it. Thanks. I really like the idea of having a climber that would double as a platform. I'm not so sure I know much about getting around limbs with that set up though.
 
I'm trying to follow. So you use the climber seat to climb, putting your feet into modified straps and sitting in your sling while pulling feet up to reset the hand climbing seat higher on the tree. Standing up and resetting the tether then sitting and repeating. I guess I'm not following the cam down part. That's after you reach hunting height and want to use it as a platform, correct?
Is there then a modification to cam it down?


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Ok, I'm with you now. The bar on your's looks a lot like the mod on the cam down seat mod on the other post. I think that threw me off. Plus, just learning to navigate a forum like this...
 
sewed up some new footstraps too. Thinking separate straps will get my feet as tight to the platform as possible.

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This looks great!

You have almost created a modification that if applied to the base of the climber would turn it into a multipurpose stand. (Fixed position or climber) I already use my climbing base as a fixed stand in trees with branches. I just climb using sticks and strap it on with the climber strap, but you have to be a little careful getting in from the side. This would eliminate that. Very nice!!!

Do you think the added beam could by short enough to pass under the cross piece in the LW climber base?
 
Cam action is a term that can be applied to many things guys. Sb220 has added a post that he cams the platform to tighten the strap. The platform has a traction belt that goes around the tree and is held on each side by a lever that cams over and locks it in place. Doing that in the cold is tough, especially if your hands are cold. My experience is with the old lonewolf stuff, maybe the xop is better. In my experience the traction belts require more adjusting than summit steel cable style. As you climb the tree gets smaller. I have no idea how people did this on the hand climber(not talking about saddle hunting). Seems the first 3ft of trees the diameter really changes, so you set the platform angle as steep as you can get it at waist high, then climb up on it. You want get very high on many trees before the belt is now to long and the platform is angled down. You have to adjust the traction belt again. As I said hanging off to the side via a harness should make this adjustment easier. I gave my experience of using a sit n climb in a previous post, think that confused some. Its all relevant to the ups and downs of this type of platform.
 
Do you think the added beam could by short enough to pass under the cross piece in the LW climber base?

I don't know. I'm no engineer, but I would think at some point in shortening the stick and bringing the batwing, versa button and climber teeth closer together, that you would start to lose some of the leverage the strap imparts on the climber teeth. I don't know though...it could go the opposite way that Im thinking and tighten it more for all I know.

One of the reasons I had all those holes drilled into that bar was an attempt to move the batwing and versa button in the field and see if any position was better than the other. I couldn't tell much difference in the few positions I tried
 
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got my 1/8 bar in and cleaned this thing up a little. Stick stands 10" off platform

with the LW buckle its adding 1.75 lbs

My first version developed a bad creak...I'm thinking it was from the 1/16 stick wall wallowing out at the hinge bolt.

Will see how this one goes
 
That looks pretty good. Id order a batwing or the xop bracket. Several guys have bent or broke the LW stick brackets.
 
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Just looked at those, campsaver has several brands. Is that the 22Nm $50 one?
 
its the metulious personal anchor pas22 for 30 bucks, bought it years ago thinking it was some kind of aider

I had a super long dyneema sling that I tied up to make a diy chain 2.6 oz.

Ill try it out tomorrow

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I'm really liking this set up. How do I go about making or getting that flange that holds the aluminum tube?
 
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