Yates speed wall ladder with WE steps

[Homebrew454]

Has anyone given this a try? I have been contemplating trying this with WE steps. Place the WE step around 7 feet. Hook the ladder on and climb up. Hook the knaider on the step and remove the ladder. Step up onto step and hang next step. Hook up ladder and remove first step. Climb up to second step and then hang first step as the 3rd step/possible platform. (Obviously use of tether and lineman's belt).

I'm thinking I could get by with 3-4 WE steps instead of my current 6-7.

I could either leave the second step on for a climb down or remove it and rappel down. Have not decided yet which option to go with. Just looking at thoughts on the ladder.

Unlike other rock climbing ladders this 1 is suppose to stay open and not close up. It has metal in the steps and at the top. It is quite heavy (13 ounces I think) but still lighter than 1 step.

I know it is similar to the five step aider with knaider topic but didn't want to hijack that thread.

Thanks

Dan

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[Homebrew454]

Here is a link to the ladder.

http://www.yatesgear.com/climbing/etriers/index.htm

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[CZMark]

I do not care for traditional multi-step aiders--this one might be usable for me.

 

[Homebrew454]

I have never tried a multi step aider. I'm just thinking this would be easiest to learn on if it stays open. Also I think it would accommodate boots better than the traditional aider.

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[ImThere]

I didn’t like the inline steps.
Imho it made it hard for me to get my feet in when I was wearing my thicker clothes.


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[Homebrew454]

I didn’t like the inline steps.
Imho it made it hard for me to get my feet in when I was wearing my thicker clothes.


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I didn't think of that... Guess that is something I would have to try/figure out. It may or may not be an issue for me.

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[Bowhunter98]

Has anyone given this a try? I have been contemplating trying this with WE steps. Place the WE step around 7 feet. Hook the ladder on and climb up. Hook the knaider on the step and remove the ladder. Step up onto step and hang next step. Hook up ladder and remove first step. Climb up to second step and then hang first step as the 3rd step/possible platform. (Obviously use of tether and lineman's belt).

I'm thinking I could get by with 3-4 WE steps instead of my current 6-7.

I could either leave the second step on for a climb down or remove it and rappel down. Have not decided yet which option to go with. Just looking at thoughts on the ladder.

Unlike other rock climbing ladders this 1 is suppose to stay open and not close up. It has metal in the steps and at the top. It is quite heavy (13 ounces I think) but still lighter than 1 step.

I know it is similar to the five step aider with knaider topic but didn't want to hijack that thread.

Thanks

Dan

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I really like this idea, I liked the big wall aider better just because of the 2" wide foot placement I feel would more suit me. and also like you said the weight of the aider is less than 1 WE step which you're more than making up for by carrying 3-4 less steps

 

[Ontariofarmer]

I have one and find the inline aider is harder to climb because your feet are closer together


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[Homebrew454]

I have one and find the inline aider is harder to climb because your feet are closer together


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Ok. I was thinking it would be a more natural movement since we're all used to climbing ladders. But I'm sure this ladder is much more narrow than a traditional step ladder. For the price though I think I will give it a try. I have spent a lot more on stuff I don't use for hunting. Just have to wait until finances are in better shape.

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[Bowhunter98]

I have one and find the inline aider is harder to climb because your feet are closer together


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What’s your preferred aided?

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Black Diamond six step aider from MEC in Canada. I really would like a custom aider made... Large stiff opening with a 16 inch step.
I think I have tried most aiders including the yellow one G2 was using. I am not satisfied yet. The inline aider is hard to climb because if you put your right foot in it tends to move to the right making it difficult to put the left foot in. Yes it is easier to get a big boot in but you are more likely to get a kickout.
With the BD aider it seems the hole for your foot is where it should be in relation to your body. Having your feet a natural distance apart helps prevent kickouts IMO.
I often get 10 feet on my first aider and just carry two sticks. I place one stick on the tree and climb 4 feet and place the second 22 inch stick on the tree as high as I can reach.. Then I add my aider and take off the first stick and climb... 19 feet to my platform is realistic with 2 sticks.
Sure you may not use the whole aider on the next climb but it is easier to put your foot into an aider when the next loop is resting on the top of the first stick.

I hope I am not confusing. I would sell my inline aider to someone in Canada if they are interested. I would not buy it if I was you.

 

[Bowhunter98]

Black Diamond six step aider from MEC in Canada. I really would like a custom aider made... Large stiff opening with a 16 inch step.
I think I have tried most aiders including the yellow one G2 was using. I am not satisfied yet. The inline aider is hard to climb because if you put your right foot in it tends to move to the right making it difficult to put the left foot in. Yes it is easier to get a big boot in but you are more likely to get a kickout.
With the BD aider it seems the hole for your foot is where it should be in relation to your body. Having your feet a natural distance apart helps prevent kickouts IMO.
I often get 10 feet on my first aider and just carry two sticks. I place one stick on the tree and climb 4 feet and place the second 22 inch stick on the tree as high as I can reach.. Then I add my aider and take off the first stick and climb... 19 feet to my platform is realistic with 2 sticks.
Sure you may not use the whole aider on the next climb but it is easier to put your foot into an aider when the next loop is resting on the top of the first stick.

I hope I am not confusing. I would sell my inline aider to someone in Canada if they are interested. I would not buy it if I was you.

I understand what you're saying and 19' with 2 sticks sounds great. have you had and kickouts yet and if so haw bad were they?

 

[Ontariofarmer]

I understand what you're saying and 19' with 2 sticks sounds great. have you had and kickouts yet and if so haw bad were they?

I have had kickouts.. A couple bad ones when I first started but almost never now... take my time and climb with good technique.
1. Stay in a vertical position relative to the tree with downward pressure on the aider with some toe pressure against the tree
2. Maintain 3 points of contact with the tree
3. Keep your foot fully inserted in the aider
4. Climb slowly and methodically - it leads to being quiet anyway.

I am using this aider with sticks and not WE steps.
I hope @ckossuth makes some custom aiders.

 

[Swampfox]

This is my DIY aider I’m using on sticks but plan to try on some WE steps. The top is not stitched together which keeps the top rung open when trying to get a foot in it. It accomplishes the same thing as the aider you have linked but doesn’t have the metal.

 

[Bowhunter98]

This is my DIY aider I’m using on sticks but plan to try on some WE steps. The top is not stitched together which keeps the top rung open when trying to get a foot in it. It accomplishes the same thing as the aider you have linked but doesn’t have the metal.

how do you like using that aider? and high cant you get?

 

[Homebrew454]

This is my DIY aider I’m using on sticks but plan to try on some WE steps. The top is not stitched together which keeps the top rung open when trying to get a foot in it. It accomplishes the same thing as the aider you have linked but doesn’t have the metal.

Is that 1 inch tubular webbing? I thought about making 1 as well but thought my time would be better spent making some other things first.

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[Swampfox]

Is that 1 inch tubular webbing? I thought about making 1 as well but thought my time would be better spent making some other things first.

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1” mil spec webbing. Not tubular. I added some additional webbing inside the rungs to help it lay open

 

[Swampfox]

how do you like using that aider? and high cant you get?

To the Top of 3 sticks ( I use this on every stick) I get ~24’

 

[Kenbama]

Here is a link to the ladder.

http://www.yatesgear.com/climbing/etriers/index.htm

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Has anyone given this a try? I have been contemplating trying this with WE steps. Place the WE step around 7 feet. Hook the ladder on and climb up. Hook the knaider on the step and remove the ladder. Step up onto step and hang next step. Hook up ladder and remove first step. Climb up to second step and then hang first step as the 3rd step/possible platform. (Obviously use of tether and lineman's belt).

I'm thinking I could get by with 3-4 WE steps instead of my current 6-7.

I could either leave the second step on for a climb down or remove it and rappel down. Have not decided yet which option to go with. Just looking at thoughts on the ladder.

Unlike other rock climbing ladders this 1 is suppose to stay open and not close up. It has metal in the steps and at the top. It is quite heavy (13 ounces I think) but still lighter than 1 step.

I know it is similar to the five step aider with knaider topic but didn't want to hijack that thread.

Thanks

Dan

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I own a Yates Big Wall and practiced using in the same manner you are suggesting. Can honestly say I do not like it. Steps are not only too close together for me, being inline is a disadvantage. Additionally you are in a compromised position switching to and from your knaider.