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This is just dumb. Every other forum asks for donations in return for badges, customized features, personal messages and ad free viewing. I havent seen one, until this point, that requires payment in exchange for classified ads. Looks like facebook will be the place to be from here on out. Foot traffic will certainly decrease because of this. There are other ways to make revenue off this forum.
 
Its about the headache not the money. Spammers hit our classifieds. Redsquirrel tried to figure out how to protect us. So he only allows people to participate that he thinks are true members. He gets PMs constantly from people wanting permission to use the classifieds. He spends more time working the site and issues with members than enjoying the site. Many of us asked for a membership to make us feel safer on in the classifieds. Many of us begged him to take a donation for all that he does and to help with the expenses of the site. Many of us don't want to be on a team in the contest with noobies to the site that never come back to be a part of the team. I think it's a great way to give what many of us want and still have most of the site free to anyone who wants to peak in before becoming active. The membership only allows you to use the classifieds and be a part of the contest. Seems like a win win for everyone. It's not mandatory. You can still enjoy the site and all the knowledge if you don't want to pay.
 
You spend more money on saddles and climbing methods you dont need every year.... and there is nothing saying that after the admin charge there won’t be prizes or better classifieds...sad part is im a treestand guy and I’ll still pay the money to help a site that’s helped me. Sites like this and the beast could easily charge for content and it could be justified.. my 2 cents
 
So I don't see an official announcement, but I gather that there is a paid membership option that allows you to use the classifieds?

If so, I'm fine with that. I don't buy anything off here and honestly knowing that anyone could post in the classifieds made me hesitant. I'm here to learn and share whatever little I know.

Who ever owns the site can do what they want and doesn't owe us anything. Even putting cost aside, I wouldn't want the hassle.

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This is just dumb. Every other forum asks for donations in return for badges, customized features, personal messages and ad free viewing. I havent seen one, until this point, that requires payment in exchange for classified ads. Looks like facebook will be the place to be from here on out. Foot traffic will certainly decrease because of this. There are other ways to make revenue off this forum.

hope so. At least by one Because everything you just said is ridiculous


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So I don't see an official announcement, but I gather that there is a paid membership option that allows you to use the classifieds?

If so, I'm fine with that. I don't buy anything off here and honestly knowing that anyone could post in the classifieds made me hesitant. I'm here to learn and share whatever little I know.

Who ever owns the site can do what they want and doesn't owe us anything. Even putting cost aside, I wouldn't want the hassle.

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Well I’m new here but the info is awesome, classifieds are good to look at, like old AT without all the bickering about every question asked. Suprised all the saddle companies that are backed up for weeks out wouldn’t buy some advertising on here to fund this. This site peaked my interest in this style of hunting and 500+ dollars a few weeks later I’m still looking at stuff on here to try. What do I know. 15.00 may be enough to keep the scammers out.
 
hope so. At least by one Because everything you just said is ridiculous


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Really? Its ridiculous to have ads on a forum for non paying members? It's crazy to think that every App on your phone uses this as a blueprint. How many forums have you participated in? It's crazy to think that the one major reason people come back to this site is now being used to make money. Sounds more like a punishment...
Facebook has already become the go to place for saddle info and sales. This will put the last nail in the coffin.
 
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If its about scamming going on then what is to prevent someone from paying $15 and still scamming people on the classifieds? I guess that could take some out but if you are scamming people out of a lot of money then whats $15 dollars to you. I guess I could just understand it better if it was a set price for the entire site.
 
For those wondering why pay for this or that it’s easy. Just don’t. Truth is redsquirrel footed the bill for this site way too long. It was a hobby. The sudden growth in the site turned a bargain hobby into an expensive job. @Bowhunter41002 There are 28 sub forums. 27 of which you’ll have a free all access pass to. The other you either choose to pay to use or just pretend it doesn’t exist. If I have a fruit stand giving away all kinds of fruit but charging what you consider too much for apples would you really sit there and tell me where to stick my pineapples because I decided to charge for apples?
 
Really? Its ridiculous to have ads on a forum for non paying members? It's crazy to think that every App on your phone uses this as a blueprint. How many forums have you participated in? It's crazy to think that the one major reason people come back to this site is now being used to make money. Sounds more like a punishment...
Facebook has already become the go to place for saddle info. This will put the last nail in the coffin.
I hope facebook never becomes the place to go. If so I am screwed cause I aint got it and never will. I dont think this will be any nail in the coffin. I just dont understand the whole logic though. But its not my site so I dont have to I guess:)
 
Right. Maybe not the last nail but It's pretty simple. Dont remove features from a site and ask for money to see them again. You add features to the site and ask for donations. Many would have donated and stayed.
 
Well I’m new here but the info is awesome, classifieds are good to look at, like old AT without all the bickering about every question asked. Suprised all the saddle companies that are backed up for weeks out wouldn’t buy some advertising on here to fund this. This site peaked my interest in this style of hunting and 500+ dollars a few weeks later I’m still looking at stuff on here to try. What do I know. 15.00 may be enough to keep the scammers out.
Valid point on advertising, similar to how archerytalk Does it or charges vendors to sell on there...think they charge 125$ to vendors yearly .... a lot of options to explore.
 
Facebook has already become the go to place for saddle info. This will put the last nail in the coffin.

Facebook is a horrific joke where you tell them your every like/dislike and they package it up and sell it to 3rd parties. Meanwhile, we can barely keep up with the number of people wanting accounts on this site. "Nail in the coffin..." LOL
 
It’s $15. If you want to buy and sell In the classifieds. A year not every listing ... as for Facebook, those groups do not hold a candle to the information and knowledge here. 97% of the guys are in their first year in a saddle on Facebook groups. Not the wealth of experience and knowledge here.


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Really? Its ridiculous to have ads on a forum for non paying members? It's crazy to think that every App on your phone uses this as a blueprint. How many forums have you participated in? It's crazy to think that the one major reason people come back to this site is now being used to make money. Sounds more like a punishment...
Facebook has already become the go to place for saddle info. This will put the last nail in the coffin.
I’m a member of multiple Facebook saddle hunting groups. Yes some have decent information but I have not seen anything that compares to the information on this site.
 
Facebook has already become the go to place for saddle info. This will put the last nail in the coffin.
Facebook will be the go to place for breaking news. Once it’s no longer on the front page it’s like it falls into a septic tank. You might find it again but you’ll have to wade through a bunch of crap to get there. There is no organization just random thoughts.
 
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