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Accuracy issues with lighted nocks

Weldabeast said:
I personally haven't noticed a difference in accuracy with any brand I've tried. Tie d loop with the lighted nock u plan to hunt with. Test and tune with the nock u plan to hunt with. My main problem with them is inconsistency lighting up. IMO they are too useful in hunting situations to not use them. Save all the bad ones to use for tuning and target practice in the yard. IMO all the brands suck but some suck less than others. Nocturnal has given me the least problems. Haven't tried glory nock and when current nocks need replacing I try those. Currently have a couple nocturnal that lasted more than 1 season and some of the thunder nock they sell on camofire... Price is good on those but I need some plyers to turn them off.. Not a problem in the hunt woods but a pain in the butt for shooting around the house.
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I'm curious what range you and OP are judging this at.
 
I practice with lighted nocks on my arrows year round so there are zero issues when they go in my quiver. Never seen any accuracy issues. Only failures is nocks sometimes not lighting up. Been the same with Nocturnal’s and Lumenok’s.
 
If you are not sighting in your pin(s) with the lighted nocks you are going to be off. Most lighted nocks weight 21 to 30 grains more than standard nocks. Any adjustments you make to your arrows you need to re-sight in your sight. I have tired most of the lighten nocks and have not had any issues not having tight groups. Your practice arrows should be the same as your hunting arrows except the field point and and broadheads. Even then you should have some of your practice arrows with your hunting broadheads. We owe it to the animals we hunt.
 
Hold on guys. There talking about accuracy issues. Groups getting bigger. If it was just the everything is 3" low but still accurate. Yes. Adjust the sight. There talking about going from 3" repeatable group to say a 5 or 6" group. So there is something in the arrow flight when they add the L. nocs.
Maybe a few stiffer arrows is a good start. Let us know if you do find a remedy. I am curious. I just picked up a new used bow that will be way faster than my single cam. I like illuminated nocs. So will have to make sure I paper tune with them.
 
I shoot Nockturnal and also the newer victory branded lighted nocks

Practice with them out to 85yds so far and no issues

Have shot a couple bucks at or a little further than 40yds & got pass thrus and short tracking jobs on them


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From the 1s I've owned I think the "nock out" brand had the smallest nock...close to if not the same size as regular nock. But I had nothing but problems with them....they last a long time. 1 of the ones I had never turned off from the first shot and stayed lit for 4 days. I also don't like the "universal" bushing type. The bushings are crap. @Outdoorsman33 are u shooting regular arrows or smaller diameter
 
I’m shooting the victory xtorsions with all their standard components and nocks. Before I started having this issue I didn’t have my mocking point tied in tight with a anchor knot that was not a bit issue because my d loop knot weren’t moving. But after I noticed I didn’t have a anchor knot for my nock point I got my bow tech to tie a anchor knot below my nock point and in doing so I think caused the arrow where my nocking point was to become tighter (and thinking about it more even a hair higher than my original mocking point) When shooting my groups are constantly lower but never same spots sometimes either though. I’m not one to adjust a sight to a certain way to compensate for drop like that. You guys do have a point about nock pinch though the nocturnals are a fatter nock vs my standard nocks I am wondering if I am getting nock pinch once I draw. At first when I nock there they look to be perfect but when I draw back I’ve never inspected the string angles on that nock to see if it’s pinching it or even pushing off the string alittle as in halfway un nocking the arrow. I’ll try and take some pictures today of what I’m talking about. And also there can be a lot of variances that could be causing this too I think nock pinch may be my likely culprit but that heavier nock changing foc and overall spine couldn’t help either. I originally wanted 250s but my bow tech only had 300 spines at the time and I couldn’t wait for arrows to come in for 2 months. I know shooting through paper would probably tell me everything I need to know but do you guys got any other ways of checking all this differently? I really appreciated all the responses to this is really helpful!
 
Outdoorsman33 said:
I’m not new to hunting or anything I’ve been shooting more and paying attention more to my shooting. And I’ve been getting better through the years but I’ve grown to notice with lighted knocks my shots tend to vary up to 6 inches sometimes with lighted nocks vs regular nocks. I know that there is a weight difference from regular nocks to lighted but it seemed like the years of me shooting and newer lighted nocks the accuracy just isn’t what I used to get out of them or I’ve just became a better shot I’m not sure. But I’m just curious if anyone else has issues with this and is it enough to you to keep shooting them or are you doing anything different to still get the accuracy out of them? With my regular nocks I can pretty well put every shot in a softball at 30 yards but lighted I’m outside of that.
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If D loop is too tight on the lighted nock it will be an issue. If the lighted nock is too tight on the string it will be an issue. Check to see how easy it is to pull the nock off the bow string with regular versus lighted nock. Then check the D loop spacing for both nocks or just measure the thickness of the two nocks and see if there's any difference.
 
PapaBear said:
Is it consistently off? Down and to the left or straight up? Or is it erratic? Are you using the universal fit or size specific model? I have had no issues using nocturnal nocks for hunting and practice or off brand chinese models for practice. Switching over to glory nocks. I will try to report back if I have issues with that brand.
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Glory nocks are very fat, most people have to retie their D loop for these to work. I got some right before season and they stayed on the shelf as I didn't want to retie my Dloop.
 
I’m also doing all this shooting at 30 yards because that’s typically as far as I will shoot so at 20 yards this issue may not even be there.
 
Outdoorsman33 said:
I’m shooting the victory xtorsions with all their standard components and nocks. Before I started having this issue I didn’t have my mocking point tied in tight with a anchor knot that was not a bit issue because my d loop knot weren’t moving. But after I noticed I didn’t have a anchor knot for my nock point I got my bow tech to tie a anchor knot below my nock point and in doing so I think caused the arrow where my nocking point was to become tighter (and thinking about it more even a hair higher than my original mocking point) When shooting my groups are constantly lower but never same spots sometimes either though. I’m not one to adjust a sight to a certain way to compensate for drop like that. You guys do have a point about nock pinch though the nocturnals are a fatter nock vs my standard nocks I am wondering if I am getting nock pinch once I draw. At first when I nock there they look to be perfect but when I draw back I’ve never inspected the string angles on that nock to see if it’s pinching it or even pushing off the string alittle as in halfway un nocking the arrow. I’ll try and take some pictures today of what I’m talking about. And also there can be a lot of variances that could be causing this too I think nock pinch may be my likely culprit but that heavier nock changing foc and overall spine couldn’t help either. I originally wanted 250s but my bow tech only had 300 spines at the time and I couldn’t wait for arrows to come in for 2 months. I know shooting through paper would probably tell me everything I need to know but do you guys got any other ways of checking all this differently? I really appreciated all the responses to this is really helpful!
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What is your ata on your bow? The shorter the ata the more of a chance your getting nock pinch do to a sharper string angle.
 
DroptineKrazy said:
What is your ata on your bow? The shorter the ata the more of a chance your getting nock pinch do to a sharper string angle.
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I’m shootings the Mathews traverse Ata is 33. The string angle to me isn’t that steep but I alas I haven’t paid that much attention to string angle around the nock at full draw.
 
I’d bet a lot of money that this is a result of either nock pinch or nock fit. The likely culprit is nock fit. I’d bet that your regular nocks snap on and off the string easily and the lighted nocks are tight...this would cause the lighted nocks to be erratic. If this is the case, you would need to reserve your center serving with a smaller diameter serving
 
Bowmanmike said:
You might be close to underspined with your setup and the lighted nocks might push you over the edge. I shoot 300 spine with 60# weight and 30" DL out of a halon x. My arrows hit the same lighted or regular nocks.
Our total arrow weight is almost identical.
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No no no...adding weight (the heavier lighted nocks) to the back end of the arrow make the dynamic spine STIFFER. If anything, you'd want to either go with a weaker spine or more weight up front.
 
never had a prob with nocturnals, same group sizes as the nocks that come with my carbon express blue streaks, now maxima reds.

FOC affected a little , that might be the issue but maybe try another brand as the pros def outweigh the cons (cost) of lighted nock I think. I think they prob add an extra 10 grains to the back of the arrow vs. a traditional nock. stiffer arrow might do it also. good luck.
 
I have a alot of wieght forward. probaly too much. Piledrivers 350 @ 740grains.
The nockturnals actually helped my accuracy. I think the tail wieght theory is right on.
 
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