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Amsteel for Lineman’s Rope and Tether

Tat2dpumpguy

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Any reason why most saddle hunters tend to use Sampson Predator or similar for a Lineman’s Rope and Tether. Given the strength to size ratio, it seems like this would make for a more efficient climbing setup. I’m new but I’ve started working a lot with amsteel, so I was curious

Thanks and stay safe
 
Sterking Oplux is my preferred rope for tether and lineman's rope. I use a rope distel hitch with a plastic tender. I had a kong duck but didn't like it. You can get it all from Eastern Woods Outdoors. Or can get a sewn eye oplux tether from Wild Edge.
 
thank you for the feedback. I can see I had a rookie mistake and left out an important part of my question.
“Any reason why most saddle hunters tend to use Sampson Predator or similar for a Lineman’s Rope and Tether”... instead of using Amsteel.
 
Amsteel isnt the most friendly with friction hitches and pretty much a no go with any and all mechanical devices. Just my opinion. Amsteel with a full bury can help (makes it less hollow), but I personally suggest one of the many other options for the use on LB and tether. Some do use it as a LB or a backup LB to go around branches.
Amsteel is great bridge material and is easy to splice.
 
I guess I am the rookie. I Didn't realize oplux was similar to the predator line or is it the same?
 
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Amsteel isnt the most friendly with friction hitches and pretty much a no go with any and all mechanical devices. Just my opinion. Amsteel with a full bury can help (makes it less hollow), but I personally suggest one of the many other options for the use on LB and tether. Some do use it as a LB or a backup LB to go around branches.
Amsteel is great bridge material and is easy to
Amsteel isnt the most friendly with friction hitches and pretty much a no go with any and all mechanical devices. Just my opinion. Amsteel with a full bury can help (makes it less hollow), but I personally suggest one of the many other options for the use on LB and tether. Some do use it as a LB or a backup LB to go around branches.
Amsteel is great bridge material and is easy to splice.
Thanks Crichton, that makes a lot of sense.
 
Any reason why most saddle hunters tend to use Sampson Predator or similar for a Lineman’s Rope and Tether. Given the strength to size ratio, it seems like this would make for a more efficient climbing setup. I’m new but I’ve started working a lot with amsteel, so I was curious

Thanks and stay safe

I’m new to this also. What I’ve gathered over the last few months on this forum is worth its weight in gold for information. It’s well worth the $15 yearly dues that’s for sure. Back to your question. From what I know about the ropes which is very little, but I know the amsteel is so much lighter in weight and it makes the predator and others a better choice for flipping the lineman up the tree. The predator is really stiff in comparison to most. I can tell you one thing for absolute certainty, and that is the Sampson predator rope is a real pain in the ass to splice a loop. I’ve done 4 so far and my last one was the best. There is only one video that I’m aware of with someone splicing it. It’s pretty much the same process as others, but you need a couple little tips to make it work out a little easier. That rope is tough!! The other benefits of the predator and others is it works a lot better with friction hitches as far as getting a good grip on the rope. Hope this helps. If you need some tips on splicing predator I can help. I feel like with all the blisters I have on my hands and fingers from doing these splices the last two days make me a pro at this now. Anyway stay safe and good hunting.


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That’s great info. Thank you for sharing your experience
I’ll be ordering the predator rope. Sounds like you have experience with the predator. What are your thoughts on a sewn vs splice eye. I’m sure for my uses, the sewn eye will be plenty strong enough.
 
That’s great info. Thank you for sharing your experience
I’ll be ordering the predator rope. Sounds like you have experience with the predator. What are your thoughts on a sewn vs splice eye. I’m sure for my uses, the sewn eye will be plenty strong enough.

I’m sure the reason you see the predator with sewn eyes is because it is so hard to splice. It is tuff, but very doable. Money is always a concern for me so I don’t mind the diy stuff. I don’t see an issue using either of them. I put some shrink tube on my splice also just another safety precaution. If money isn’t an issue, I see no reason not to buy. I didn’t like all the bulky knots so that’s why I decided to splice. I didn’t know what I was getting myself into before I started. I watched some videos on splicing and went to it. I didn’t know about the difficulties for this particular rope though. It looked fairly simple in the videos, but it wasn’t predator. If you decide to try it, let me know and I can walk you through it. Stay safe and good hunting.


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I think an amsteel secondary linesman would be acceptable for going around limbs but as a primary it will be problematic. As the amsteel gets used it will fray and it sticks to the tree bark. If you had some sort of protective sleeve over it to keep it from sticking it would be good. I like having a rope linesman .....throwing it around the tree and flipping it up to advance up the tree much easier with rope at has a little weight to it. I have 8mm climbing rope for tether and linesman.
 
I’m sure the reason you see the predator with sewn eyes is because it is so hard to splice. It is tuff, but very doable. Money is always a concern for me so I don’t mind the diy stuff. I don’t see an issue using either of them. I put some shrink tube on my splice also just another safety precaution. If money isn’t an issue, I see no reason not to buy. I didn’t like all the bulky knots so that’s why I decided to splice. I didn’t know what I was getting myself into before I started. I watched some videos on splicing and went to it. I didn’t know about the difficulties for this particular rope though. It looked fairly simple in the videos, but it wasn’t predator. If you decide to try it, let me know and I can walk you through it. Stay safe and good hunting.


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Thanks for the feedback. I’ve watched a few vids on the predator splice and they’ve all all started off by saying the same thing “it’s difficult the first few times” and they make it seem easy but it’s hard telling how many hours those guys have in learning the trade.
I like the DIY stuff too, I’ve spent a lot of time with amsteel, did (3) Hawk Helium Mods, and a DIY platform. I like the cleaner look of a splice but since it’s prob gonna be a one and done, so I’ll just fuel the economy and leave it to the experts. LOL
Thanks for taking the time to respond to this post. Stay safe and be well
 
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