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Ant Ridge

Nutterbuster

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The past two seasons, I've really lost my mojo. Long story short, we had problems with neighbors that led to me selling my little house on the river. Stuff was pretty methed up. I went through a layoff, and my wife's pregnancy turned out to be high-risk and very stressful.

On top of all that, having a little girl for some reason has made me hyper-aware of how much I dislike a lot of mainstream hunting culture. Hunting has always been regrettably entangled with redneckery and white trash in my area, and I'm not sure exactly when Rogan and the rest of the manosphere 'roid-heads started using hunting to prop up their masculinity, but it sure happened and as the kids say "the vibes are off" for me now. I'm blessed with a small group of really good hunting and fishing friends whose ethos more-or-less matches mine, but I went through a spell where I seemed to meet an awful lot of hunters and anglers who I didn't want to be around and whom I definitely didn't want my little girl to be around.

But last year, I did manage to rekindle the spark a little. I picked up some cell cameras, put them out, and started seeing nice deer and showing them off to my buddies and my kid. I took a week off, hunted the rut, and had four run-ins with nice bucks. Perhaps most importantly, I had a good friend who's also a long-legged hunter and new dad come down for the last weekend of season, and we hunted a new stretch of timber that I'd been wanting to poke around on.

I found this place four years ago, right before life started to get cattywampus. A five mile boat ride eventually takes you down a little slough, which peters out right as it hits a swamp ridge. If you bushwhack this ridge a mile further into the swamp, you'll come to a swamp crossing. Four years ago, me and another friend ran this ridge turkey hunting, and once we got to the terminus I left him to rest and cat nap under a tree while I picked my way through a swamp crossing. Three hundred yards, several water moccasins, and a good dunking in nasty water later, I came out at another, larger ridge.

I had told my buddy I wouldn't be long, so I speed-scouted this mile-long ridge at a literal trot. It was covered in rubs and scrapes, and I also saw a pretty high concentration of hog runs and feathers under good roosting trees. It looked good. Really good.

Life happened, and I lost the ability and the drive to make long expeditions back into the swamp. But my buddy coming down did two things. One, it put pressure on me as the host to put him on deer. Two, it gave me at least the illusion of safety since instead of rocking solo I had an experienced co-adventurer. So we got up ungodly early, rode a small boat a long way, bushwhacked, swamp-slogged, and then bushwhacked some more.

Just like last time, the place looked stellar.

We were still walking to the place I had in mind to park my buddy when we stopped to admire a scrape. Movement caught my eye, and when I looked up a small buck was working another scrape further down the ridge. My buddy had made a seven hour drive for a meat hunt (fatherhood had also robbed him of his woods time and emptied his freezer) so I pointed the buck out to him. He shot it, and after a rough tracking job we quartered the buck and made the long treck out.

The place looked so good that despite the effort required to get there, we both agreed that evening that going back in the morning was the only sensible thing to do. Again we made the long trip, and I dropped my buddy off where he'd shot his buck the day before while I pushed a little further ahead to scout a a little more thoroughly and maybe find a spot to post up. I ended up distracted by a group of hen turkeys that spooked at my buddy's rifle shot. He texted that he'd shot another buck at the same scrape line, and for me to keep hunting. I kept slipping through the woods, and discovered what I can only describe as one hell of a scrape line. As I was marking scrapes and eyeballing trees and potential camera locations, another shot rang out. My phone buzzed in my pocket.

"Doe." the text read.

"I'm done. Couldn't help myself."

"They're like ants! Had to have been a dozen deer moving through the swamp."

I backtracked to his location, and we started quartering up his deer. As I was working a ham loose, my buddy tapped my arm and pointed. A doe was obliviously walking the ridge. Never one to pass a bad decision, I grabbed my rifle and made an already heavy walk back to the boat even less fun.

As we walked back, I couldn't help but make plans for next year. It was fun and all to have a trigger-happy weekend, but this place was a long way from civilization to be shooting dinks and does. Some of those rubs were really big, and I literally don't think I've ever found a place with more deer sign in my home area. What the place needed was a few trail cameras to soak, so that I could find out just how big the "big boys" that definitely had to run that ridge were. My buddy, struggling through the mud with two deer on his back, couldn't do much more than sweat and listen, but he did agree that it was a good spot, and that he'd be interested in returning next rut for a more serious endeavor.

This morning, I hung two cameras. One about 50 yards south of three, bleached deer skulls, on the trail my buddy's deer took. The other is a bit further in, on a well-worn trail intersection, looking at a scrape that deer are already working. As I sit here at the house with a sick wife and a toddler who's climbing on my desk, I'm so excited to see what this ridge has in store for my buddy and I this winter that I about can't stand myself.

It's good to be back.
 
Glad you're back, sorry about the river house, and hope you bag an ant or 2 at the ridge this year. Also a dad of (only) daughters here, I never bought into much of the macho stuff and still don't, but I sure do like watching my girls eat something I've caught/hunted/grown. Makes me laugh when they want to "invite our dinner to dinner" (bringing the euro mount over to the table from its spot on a shelf in the laundry room ;) ). Perhaps being a "normal" hunter is a reason to be out there in and of itself, so people, albeit at a much smaller scale, can see we exist too.
 
Great you’re back! Missed ya! Wish your bud @kyler1945 would make a “Uey too!

There will always be a cross section of different types no matter what your interest. Don’t forsake what you enjoy about hunting because others may not interpret or understand or experience it the same way you do.

You obviously realize there are different stages of hunters and hunting, mostly based on experience and maturity level but some people waffle between the different stages for a variety of reasons. I’ve found I can at least respect most hunters once I gather where they are at in their personal stage. It at least helps put many more people into perspective for me.

So I’m glad you’re back and it’s always a pleasure to glean some wisdom from you well beyond your years.
 
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Been there. Losing a big deer i worked so hard for (eventually found), then a divorce. I lost the fire. Took a little time to get back....not only the fire, but my skilz. Then I started putting myself back on the "x" and now it's something I love again.

I have very few friends that are down for the adventure anymore. I have one that's invited me to come to Maryland, which i am going to do.. We hunted together years ago....twice for elk in CO. Couple times for sikas in MD. He's the real deal though. Don't find many like him. Still, he helped rekindle my fire. He's leaving for CO on the 14th until the 27th....I wanna go again. Bad.

I'm happy for you. You're a talented writer and you definitely know what you're doing in the woods. We need more Nutter content.
 
I'm happy to hear you have rekindled the spark for hunting and nature. It's very easy to get sidetracked by other things in life, some good, some bad.

It sounds like you have discovered one of those prime spots that is great because it is difficult to get too, and most people, hunters included, will opt for the easy button most of the time. I can relate. I'm the only one of my hunting circle who has not gone the route of paid leases, cell cams over corn feeders and fixed stands. I still tromp miles into the swamps or hills and they all think I'm crazy. What they don't get is that it is that journey, the adventure in the last wild(ish) places that does it for me. If I get a deer all the better.

It sounds like you have a very solid plan in place to hunt that area this fall. My guess is that whether you drag a giant out of there or not you are going to find what you are really looking for back in that spot.
 
How many acres is this spot? How many cameras did you set up? I found a similar spot last year way too late into the season. I had my cell cameras on a lease at the time and that was a huge waste. All the intel from my regular cameras was old or stolen and I never got cameras on the interior island. This area is more of a peninsula than an island, but you can treat it as an island since ends against fed private land. The outer rim gets hunted a fair bit (I know because i spent my time there and surrounding areas much of late season). It is only a short canoe or boat ride to. I still saw several deer and had a couple opportunities at bucks within the outer areas but when I finally made the trek to this interior place it was packed with sign and deer. It appeared to me that the interior island was left untouched due to the difficulties required to get there. The island is surrounded by a 40 or so yard ring of short growth trees, privet, and greenbriar and the interior is… mature pines lol. There is a larger ‘halo’ of land around the island separated by a mud flat and a creek that is also very thick. The out ringer I scouted several times and it contained a ton of scrape and rubs sign as well; however, I was convinced most of it was nighttime sign.

To access the island there are two routes, one is a system of very thick fingers followed by three fairly deep ditches you have to wade, muck and cut across to reach the main “island”. Much of this was over my boots so I will need to get waders or come up with another solution for these crossings. From the other direction you only have one thick finger to cut across but then you have a 200 yard mud flat to muck across. Even at low winter pool on the river/lake it was borderline sketchy getting across from either side. I hunted it three times. Twice from one side, once from the other. I saw many deer and turkey every sit. It had of lot of late season rut action and I saw several nice bucks just out of shooting range.

After last season I had a similar idea to make or come up with some better access routes into this spot, make presets and set up some trail cameras to get more intel. I should have went right back in there in the winter when it was accessible and set up cameras and presets then but it never happened.

This unseasonably cool weather has me itching to set up some cameras. I have two cells and one regular still alive lol. It’s plenty early that I don’t think it’ll bother anything. Also the water may still be high enough to just enter but push pole or canoe.

Are you using waders or some kind of hip boots to access? Other general thoughts on camera locations or plan of attack?
 
I have two kids 4 and 7, and since 2018 my hunting has never been the same. It is very difficult to do anything away from home without a bit of an “ETA???” vibe from the wife, and some level of schedule stress pulsing through my nervous system. I can feeling it rising right about now before season. This was especially true when the kids were younger.

I don’t think the hunting experience films well, but in fairness have to imagine playing in an NFL game is a little different than sitting on the couch watching it. Hunting media is full of a lotta guys I disagree with about stuff, and also peppered with the occasional humans that I’m so glad to be able to watch and learn from.

I’ve always kinda been the “leftist” at deer camp, but thankfully as we’ve all matured that’s more of a joke now than anything, because most of us are cynical enough now to not much care. It’s been a weight off my shoulders to accept that most things will only get worse, that’s liberating.

In my case in spite of the ups and downs of actual enjoyment (which now varies greatly by season), fortunately my enthusiasm (at 47 years young) hasn’t yet waned much. I hope through your ups and downs you maintain some enthusiasm, partly for our sakes bc it’s great to have you active here! No pressure, but I for one hope you keep getting out to the woods!

If you ever feel like trying out a NE Ohio private land hunt, you’d always be welcome to come visit.
 
How many acres is this spot? How many cameras did you set up?
It's roughly 60 acres. Similar to what you described; an "island" due to how property lines work, but geographically more like a peninsula than an isolated swamp ridge.

I currently have 2 cameras set up, which is not nearly enough to get the intel I want. I place them high to avoid human and deer detection, and to reduce risk from water damage in floods, and that drastically reduces the intel the capture. As you can see, one doe walked just off of the main trail and I barely caught her. I have 6 cell cams total, and I'm very tempted to soak all of them there this year. But, I have some really good spots where last year I appreciated having real-time information drip fed to me to inform where exactly I sat.
Are you using waders or some kind of hip boots to access? Other general thoughts on camera locations or plan of attack?
Assuming it's the dry season, you can make it back there in rubber boots now that I have a good "line" through the swamp. Hip boots are realistically going to be preferred most of the time I think. Our annual flood renders the area inaccessible, but last year that flood didn't show until after season. Not sure how huntable this area realistically is during our rut timeframe. Just depends on when the water comes up.

Camera location wise, there are two long-abandoned old food plots on the ridge that I assume were cultivated by private landowners back before the land was public. That, or they were illegally treating the place like they owned it once upon a time. Both of those clearings have good perineal scrapes that in a perfect world I'd be monitoring.

The place I'm most likely to put a camera or two is on some trails that lead to two private food plots and a corn feeder that borders the property. In hindsight, I wish I'd have just gone ahead and done that, since realistically those trails should at least capture night time images of whatever bucks are in the area and let me know if they're worth the trek. But, the private landowner does have some cameras and stands of his own on the public land. He doesn't seem to be willing to get very far back there, but I think it's fairly likely that a camera close to the property line might get stumbled upon and messed with. I also don't want to be too tempted to hunt too close to the line and put myself in a situation where I have a blood trail crossing the property line, since unfortunately Alabama is not a right-to-retrieve state.
 
I’m glad you are excited about the upcoming season. We all go through a bit of a funk every now and then but when things that are truly important start happening, suddenly the things we thought were super important seem much less so. Good luck this season. I hope you find a renewed passion and enjoyment for your time outdoors.
 
Turns out my little peninsula or island is only about 20 acres. The outer rings of land would make it closer to 80-100 acres. I may put some focus on interior fingers as well since I jumped several bucks off them last year. The water is very low even now so it’ll definitely be walking mudflats across unless I can get the pirogue on there in the winter. I had to push pole most of the way back

That said I walked the “island” and it was even thicker in some spots than I remembered. I did not find a community scrape in the middle nor on the edges so I made two mock scrapes near pinch points made by deadfall. Surprisingly I did have deer checking it out already.

I bumped two big body deer on the privet edge but couldn’t tell antler size. I also found a persimmon tree that looked like it was about to fall over it had so much fruit on it. It was right on the waters edge and I was uncertain if deer were eating it yet or not. I do not plan to hunt early season so I guess it doesn’t matter. When I made my way around the back side there was also a muscadine vine ripe with berries.

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That dude in the front is definitely a shooter. I'm very tempted to grab the .22WMR this Sunday and go set some more cameras. If I bump across a hog, so be it.

Never been an early season guy, but this place may very well flood out come January. Chasing these deer lets me learn new things and stay the heck out of my good spots until good times.
 
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I have a couple other bucks on camera but they’re all dinks.

I guess I’m surprised to see deer “checking out” these two mock scrapes.


Thought this was pretty cool too, -hiya!IMG_2058.jpeg
 
Well my island/peninsula was a mostly a bust this year, but that’s mostly because I didn’t hunt it. Have you had any action on your ant ridge @Nutterbuster ?

With a new born I only hunted mornings and short hunts before work, which took this area off the table almost completely. I only hunted it once. Not sure if I’ll hunt it again before season is done. I had a few weeks where total day time buck sightings were up but I just couldn’t get out to hunt it. Also, I think the water being extra low this year played the big role on peninsula use. What was normally a difficult area to get to became a cake walk with no water over the mud flats at all. I think this made it feel less safe for the deer (just a hunch). It at least reduced my confidence in the area and I opted to not hunt it a few times even when I could. I didn’t get any hunters on cam, but I ran into at least one guy that may have also been hunting it some. I had quite a few nice bucks on camera just didn’t make it work.
 
Well my island/peninsula was a mostly a bust this year, but that’s mostly because I didn’t hunt it. Have you had any action on your ant ridge @Nutterbuster ?

With a new born I only hunted mornings and short hunts before work, which took this area off the table almost completely. I only hunted it once. Not sure if I’ll hunt it again before season is done. I had a few weeks where total day time buck sightings were up but I just couldn’t get out to hunt it. Also, I think the water being extra low this year played the big role on peninsula use. What was normally a difficult area to get to became a cake walk with no water over the mud flats at all. I think this made it feel less safe for the deer (just a hunch). It at least reduced my confidence in the area and I opted to not hunt it a few times even when I could. I didn’t get any hunters on cam, but I ran into at least one guy that may have also been hunting it some. I had quite a few nice bucks on camera just didn’t make it work.
I haven't deer hunted a single day this year. May make the last weekend. Been busy with work, kiddo, board member BS, and training for a marathon.

I duck hunted a bit, but most of those hunts were "business lunches." Those don't really hit.

Life changes. I'd say I miss it but I enjoy getting more sleep and making more money. And gummy bear breath sugars
 
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