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Any detailed pics of the LWCG Double Step Climbing Sticks?

Boomstick300

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I know they just came out but I was wondering if anyone had any links to any pics or video that shows how they stack?


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Search ATA 2020 on YouTube. There are videos on there.

I think I heard Andre say that they are lighter than the single step, which I arm curious about.

Also would like to see how well those bolt standoffs work on a real tree.
 
I'm interested in them. I'm very sceptical of the bolt standoffs. Seems like they'd be tough on a tree (main reason I sold WE steps was because for a "public legal" method they were rough on cambium) and kinda cramped on foot space. But if they're lighter than the already light single steps, with no moving parts, and that crazy stackability...

If they pack with the ambush, I'll probably end up trying a set. Dang it.
 
I'm interested in them. I'm very sceptical of the bolt standoffs. Seems like they'd be tough on a tree (main reason I sold WE steps was because for a "public legal" method they were rough on cambium) and kinda cramped on foot space. But if they're lighter than the already light single steps, with no moving parts, and that crazy stackability...

If they pack with the ambush, I'll probably end up trying a set. Dang it.

Agreed. Stand offs look short and seem like they would have zero bite on the tree.
 
I have some leverage sticks that have little to no "bite" on a tree. I don't get this complaint. The bit isn't what holds your weight up, it's the rope going around the back of the tree that hold the stick there. Not its ability to bite into the bark. I only want my sticks to have enough bite to hold the tension that I applied when I slid the stick down as far as it would go and not slide back up. But honestly, i've climbed some beach trees and my leverages don't bite at all on them. But, I have never had a single problem with them. I want to use the most minimally invasive option I can. I don't want sharp stand offs.

YMMV
 
I have some leverage sticks that have little to no "bite" on a tree. I don't get this complaint. The bit isn't what holds your weight up, it's the rope going around the back of the tree that hold the stick there. Not its ability to bite into the bark. I only want my sticks to have enough bite to hold the tension that I applied when I slid the stick down as far as it would go and not slide back up. But honestly, i've climbed some beach trees and my leverages don't bite at all on them. But, I have never had a single problem with them. I want to use the most minimally invasive option I can. I don't want sharp stand offs.

YMMV
The reason you want a stick to bite is so it doesnt kick out on you. Even on a straight, limbless tree, the pressure you put on a stick is never straight down as you climb. Add branches or crooked trees and side pressure is worse. The strap holds a stick on a tree, the standoffs keep it position.

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The reason you want a stick to bite is so it doesnt kick out on you. Even on a straight, limbless tree, the pressure you put on a stick is never straight down as you climb. Add branches or crooked trees and side pressure is worse. The strap holds a stick on a tree, the standoffs keep it position.

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I guess I have just been lucky. I have never had a stick kick out in any form.
 
Why would they advertise a weight for the sticks when their history shows there's 0 chance the end product will meet the actual weight they advertise?

I used to be super loyal to Lone a Wolf (pre China circa mid 2000’s) and one of the main reasons was that I have always been a weight weenie and back then if they advertised their stick was 2.5#s, it WAS 2.5#s.
Disappointed with what I have heard about LWCG.
But those dang new double step sticks with no moving parts have me in a crisis of conscience. They look like they would be SO easy to pack in. I question the standoffs like everyone else. I wish someone could get a hold of one and weigh it and tell me that it’s actually 4 pounds so I could just move on and quit thinking about them.
 
The versa button, or whatever the LWCG version is called, seems really high up on the stick. Anyone else notice this? More prone to kickout? I thought 2/3 up was the standard optimal balance point. These look more like 4/5 of the way up.

Still really interested in how these standoffs work and the final weight.
 
I am also interested in them. Also concerned about those bracket/bolts/whatever they are.

They are “1.7 lbs” each...
 
The versa button, or whatever the LWCG version is called, seems really high up on the stick. Anyone else notice this? More prone to kickout? I thought 2/3 up was the standard optimal balance point. These look more like 4/5 of the way up.

Still really interested in how these standoffs work and the final weight.
I noticed that. Looks like awful.

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I am also interested in them. Also concerned about those bracket/bolts/whatever they are.

They are “1.7 lbs” each...

With or without the strap? Actual weight or advertised weight?
 
I assume he meant 1 lb 7 oz, which would be just under 1.5 lbs if course. Impressive weight if so.

Gotta see those bolts in action though, and still worry about the high button placement.

Cautiously optimistic though. Packability looks phenomenal!
 
Hijack the thread to say I’m initially impressed by the camera arm too.
 
Curious about leaving straps on and them stacking. Maybe with thin amsteel daisy chain?
 
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