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Anyone ever have this happen to a spliced tether?

Ditto that, someone already did the hard part. Lock stitch is so simple and can be done to look virtually invisible unless one is parting cover strands and actually looking for it.
 
Ditto that, someone already did the hard part. Lock stitch is so simple and can be done to look virtually invisible unless one is parting cover strands and actually looking for it.

Yep, out of all the questionable things I've seen from saddle manufacturers this one scares me the most. How many tethers are out there that are slowly working out, right up to the point someone leans back and it finally let's go at 20'?
 
This just makes me glad I can't afford anything they sell. Pretty inexcusable.


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I’m sorry your splice pulled out. I think what we all really want to know is the story behind the zebra print pool table.
 
This just makes me glad I can't afford anything they sell. Pretty inexcusable.


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The beauty of cheap, quality rope and knowing a few knots....you can inspect and toss your stuff as much as makes you feel safe for less than 50 bucks a year.
 
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I’m sorry your splice pulled out. I think what we all really want to know is the story behind the zebra print pool table.
Lmao I bought my house when I was 20 and the first thing I moved in was free pool table! Redid the felt on the table itself but left the rails zebra because they were still good! Lmao
 
I’m sorry your splice pulled out. I think what we all really want to know is the story behind the zebra print pool table.

These spliced eyes have reached the level where even The Nuge has taken notice.
 
Splices are very reliable if done right, obviously these aren’t being done correctly. First thing I notice was the lack of tapers. The cover reduction was started at half the length it should have, not leaving enough to fill up the cover to prevent pulling out. In the first picture there is a small length of black whipping twine on the core, maybe a single stitch to prevent the unloaded pulling of the bury, pretty lame.
 
The spliced eyes have been very popular. Now that we know it is happening, I wonder how common it has been and how many incidents it will take to either start lock stitching at the manufacturer or move away from the spliced eye.
I have both. I may just rely on a rappel line.

That said, here’s some questions. How often should we be replacing our life support ropes. Should we be untying the knots? If so how often? After each hunt or each season?
The ropes do get dirty. What about cleaning them properly? How many of us do that? How much strength is compromised if we don’t?

I know knots decrease the strength of the ropes. But as mentioned they can be inspected. Then we have the risk of an incorrect knot or and incorrectly tied knot vs the manufactured loop. Do the knots get weaker if left tied from season to season or do they remain stable?

So many questions.....


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The spliced eyes have been very popular. Now that we know it is happening, I wonder how common it has been and how many incidents it will take to either start lock stitching at the manufacturer or move away from the spliced eye.
I have both. I may just rely on a rappel line.

That said, here’s some questions. How often should we be replacing our life support ropes. Should we be untying the knots? If so how often? After each hunt or each season?
The ropes do get dirty. What about cleaning them properly? How many of us do that? How much strength is compromised if we don’t?

I know knots decrease the strength of the ropes. But as mentioned they can be inspected. Then we have the risk of an incorrect knot or and incorrectly tied knot vs the manufactured loop. Do the knots get weaker if left tied from season to season or do they remain stable?

So many questions.....


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I'll bite on the cleaning part. If you look, most manufacturers say "hand wash in gentle soap with luke warm water and then hang to dry in cool dry place".....or something along those lines. Wash like lingerie, basically :)

I don't use scent free hunter soaps on mine because half of those advertise "special enzymes" and such. I don't want surprises.

Here's what I do, but please go ahead and look at manufacturer recommendations also. The method below is also how I clean my saddles and packs.

I fill a clean tub with warm (not hot) water, put my ropes in there, put a little blue Dawn, stir and agitate and let soak for a few hours, drain tub, fill with water and do the stir/soak (sometimes I do this twice), and then I hang them carefully in my shower so that they can drip dry. The next day I move them around a bit to let them dry better in areas that weren't evaporating well.
 
How often do you clean your ropes? Other than dirt is strength an issue?


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How often do you clean your ropes? Other than dirt is strength an issue?


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I do it after season and then as needed. Probably once mid-season or if I hunt in the rain and happen to get everything really dirty (so as needed). I don't know. I just don't mind doing it and touching the ropes up once in a while means they never get super dirty and each cleaning is easy (same thing with my pack, I never let it get filthy because then my lazy man's cleaning method wouldn't work). I feel like it keeps stuff from getting worked into the fibers. Dirt is organic matter and ground up pieces of rock, so it's of course abrasive on your rope fibers to some degree just like it is on the clear coat of a vehicle.

PS. I also always hang up everything that night if it gets wet. I don't want my ropes or saddle getting mildew. I don't know what that does to it, but I don't want to find out.
 
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If u use a prusik knot the dirt it a pretty big deal in my opinion.... It builds up and eventually creates more heat and the rope will start to gall. The cleaning I've done is to dunk under water and agitate with my hands but only if it's got mud or ash or visibility dirty. I started replacing the prusik every season. Dirt/sand is an abrasive so it can't be good to be on u ropes. Same goes for pivot points on platforms... Dirt eat up the aluminum
 
On the splicing, if it’s happened a few times a recall, or at the least a warning to purchasers should be issued. Giving a new tether isn’t the solution to the problem.

On cleaning, Mammut suggests not hanging as the weight of the wet rope will stretch in these parts, while the rest doesn’t.
 
Look at all this good info coming out. Think I’ll clean my ropes.....


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Look at all this good info coming out. Think I’ll clean my ropes.....


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Another thing u asked about that I noticed recently.....I have the t-burger rescue tech as my rappel line....I have 1 season hunting with it...I recently untied all the knots because I have a small fray in the sheath on 1 end. I untied everything and retied all the knots on the opposite end of the rope. I can feel that the core is softer/spongy where the knots were. That small area doesn't pass the pinch test but it's at the very end of the rope so I'm not stressing it....so I get 1 more season out of it and I'll untie those new knots and see if it passes pinch test (doubt it) and then I can cut it down and get 2 more seasons then I guess it'll be time to replace. I have never even come close to having to use the entire length of rappel line...I think it's 35ft...I rarely climb over 15 some maybe I'll get 4 more seasons outta it? Either way.....untie and pinch test ur ropes periodically
 
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