Ive actually seen it done somewhere on here if im not mistaken. I want to say someone added a amsteel loop to some ameristeps, or to the strap next to the step to be exact. Ive also seen one member in particular use just a strap with a buckle and two loops to get up a tree with a knaider and swaider. That's a little extreme for me too. Might as well use 2 tethers with foot loops to climb with. At any rate, since I posted that, I have 3 17" shikars and a mini on the way so "back to sticks" it is! Or atleast ill use them more than I did my muddys, just too heavy.