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Best friction hitch for climbing and set?

Weldabeast said:
@bfriendly I use the knut and that video posted above he shows a way to tie it but it made it looked much more complicated than it is....simplified here ....
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Once I get started on the videos I’ll watch 3 or 4 at least. I saw this one too! Sure seems simplest way I’ve seen to tie it. I’ve been here for like 2 years and never heard of the Knut til like a week ago………lots more where that came from too! Overwhelmed and overjoyed am I! I feel like the fun is just beginning! Course my meds are kicking good too =0)
 
Yeah, I will be tieing it tonight. That is the type of thing I might be able to get down with. Have to throw my weight on it and see how easily it breaks after being loaded. I will be trying it out in the next week
 
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Weldabeast said:
With my rope combo (8mm mainline and 6mm hitch) it can bite down if u really shock weight it good but if u add a tender above it u can break it free easily....


Like this.... https://saddlehunter.com/community/...tuff-that-gets-the-job-done.27307/post-726487
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Before everyone gets all crazy here, do you recommend repeat rappelling using this hitch? I’ve used the Michoacán to rappel a few times and it actually didn’t do all that bad the first few times. Then the hitch started to sink and slowly didn’t want to break anymore. Even on the JRB method, John is using a Munter for rappelling. I’m just beginning to like a hitch by itself, but baby steps for me…….not ready to rappel on one. I’ll keep using a device, but it is nice knowing the hitches capabilities.
 
bfriendly said:
Before everyone gets all crazy here, do you recommend repeat rappelling using this hitch? I’ve used the Michoacán to rappel a few times and it actually didn’t do all that bad the first few times. Then the hitch started to sink and slowly didn’t want to break anymore. Even on the JRB method, John is using a Munter for rappelling. I’m just beginning to like a hitch by itself, but baby steps for me…….not ready to rappel on one. I’ll keep using a device, but it is nice knowing the hitches capabilities.
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I use the monster munter as the main rappel and the knut is the backup and also the static hanger when I'm elevated and hunting
 
bfriendly said:
Before everyone gets all crazy here, do you recommend repeat rappelling using this hitch? I’ve used the Michoacán to rappel a few times and it actually didn’t do all that bad the first few times. Then the hitch started to sink and slowly didn’t want to break anymore. Even on the JRB method, John is using a Munter for rappelling. I’m just beginning to like a hitch by itself, but baby steps for me…….not ready to rappel on one. I’ll keep using a device, but it is nice knowing the hitches capabilities.
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The device providing our PRIMARY friction source in rappel should NOT be a friction hitch. That's just a backup. It could be a munter, figure 8, mechanical device or even our foot or footloop. I have done tests rappelling on a friction hitch and it's a test that almost always fails. The hitch gets jammed. The only time i did it successfully was with the JRB Ascender in the non-jamming configuration and i used arborist diameter ropes and 8mm heat resistant cord. And I haven't done it since. It's just a test.

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BTaylor said:
Tender is above the hitch rather than below it like on a lineman's rope.
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The tender is below on a lineman’s rope…. The tender is above for the hitch back up for rappelling. If you have the right size object for your tender, you can get really good leverage to break the hitch
 
bfriendly said:
Before everyone gets all crazy here, do you recommend repeat rappelling using this hitch? I’ve used the Michoacán to rappel a few times and it actually didn’t do all that bad the first few times. Then the hitch started to sink and slowly didn’t want to break anymore. Even on the JRB method, John is using a Munter for rappelling. I’m just beginning to like a hitch by itself, but baby steps for me…….not ready to rappel on one. I’ll keep using a device, but it is nice knowing the hitches capabilities.
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You shouldn’t rappel on friction hitches in SRT without an additional source of friction such as a rope wrench. It’s a dangerous practice. The reason it is ok in Ddrt is the hitch only supports half the weight so it doesn’t bind and you have the ability to control descent speed. People have (and some mountain rescuers can) descended on 2 friction hitches in stand slide sit, methods (similar to 2TC but going down) it’s not the quickest or easiest method though. Personally I keep a figure 8 in my pouch as a back up for rappel if I were to drop, or break my gri gei plus. I can ascend or descend on the 8
 
Well nevermind then, back to the mechanical. I was thinking I could rappel on this and use my other hand as a brake hand. I was talking to my boss the other day (retired tier 1 SEAL). He broke a rope out and taught me to how to rappel by wrapping the rope around your arm, sit back, wrap your opposite thigh and the use both hands as brakes. He said they would rappel down a building like that, no knots, no devices, just a little rope burn if you are being shot at. That is my new self rescue technique.
 
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