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Biting the bullet

Now the hard part…. Waiting. Though I have plenty of buffer before next season.
You were in the same boat I was in last year at this time. But I had mine before Spring Gobbler season which for NY is May 1st. I had it with a couple of weeks to spare (got it late April). Dave's a great guy. You can text him or call him and he responds right away. Highly, highly recommend for sure.
 
This may be a usless opinion, but it's the only one I got, LOL.
When I am hunting on the ground and I have the same camo head to toe I get picked more then if I break it up. One camo on pants, shirt different, some times a lite vest in another and face mask in another. The more different the patterns the better.
 
This may be a usless opinion, but it's the only one I got, LOL.
When I am hunting on the ground and I have the same camo head to toe I get picked more then if I break it up. One camo on pants, shirt different, some times a lite vest in another and face mask in another. The more different the patterns the better.
Good to know. Good camo or rather just good hunting garments is my next major investment.
 
Question for you guys who have the chair already and like it. My question is for deer hunting. This year I have a few new spots that can really only be hunted from the ground. Watching Zach from THP I almost feel like that is my more style with a compound. What do you gain from the seat? Just overall comfort?

I feel like when I do ground hunt I will mix in a little still hunting as well so having a chair with me seems like a lot to carry, etc. However, being new to archery ground hunting I don't know for sure.
 
Question for you guys who have the chair already and like it. My question is for deer hunting. This year I have a few new spots that can really only be hunted from the ground. Watching Zach from THP I almost feel like that is my more style with a compound. What do you gain from the seat? Just overall comfort?

I feel like when I do ground hunt I will mix in a little still hunting as well so having a chair with me seems like a lot to carry, etc. However, being new to archery ground hunting I don't know for sure.
All I can tell you is I have hunted from stumps and sat straight on the ground. Not super enjoyable for extended periods. I think the chair only weighs 4 lbs and has backpack straps.
 
What kind of packs are you all attaching for packing meat out???? Any helpful tips would be great.
I haven't packed meat out with mine, but I did pack my pop-up blind which is probably 15-20lbs and big and bulky. The Pac Seat has a strap that you can cinch down. You would drape your shoulder straps of your pack or in my case, my pop-up blind bag over the top cross piece and then cinch this down with the top strap. Fill your pack with the meat and then I would bring a couple of buckle straps or bungee's to secure the load on the bottom part that way. I wouldn't use ratchet strap as I wouldn't want to collapse the framing, just something that would secure the load that you can pull tight by hand would work.

Alternatively, this seat is super light so you could conceivably pack it on your frame pack and not feel it at all and just use it for its purpose as a seat and use your frame pack to haul the meat.
 
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I haven't packed meat out with mine, but I did pack my pop-up blind which is probably 15-20lbs and big and bulky. The Pac Seat has a strap that you can cinch down. You would drape your shoulder straps of your pack or in my case, my pop-up blind bag over the top cross piece and then cinch this down with the top strap. Fill your pack with the meet and then I would bring a couple of buckle straps or bungee's to secure the load on the bottom part that way. I wouldn't use ratchet strap as I wouldn't want to collapse the framing, just something that would secure the load that you can pull tight by hand would work.

Alternatively, this seat is super light so you could conceivably pack it on your frame pack and not feel it at all and just use it for its purpose as a seat and use your frame pack to haul the meat.
I do have a really nice frame pack so that is an option. Would love to just carry one thing for both purposes though. Yeah I have seen the shoulder strap thing where they drape it over. That’s pretty cool.
 
Question for you guys who have the chair already and like it. My question is for deer hunting. This year I have a few new spots that can really only be hunted from the ground. Watching Zach from THP I almost feel like that is my more style with a compound. What do you gain from the seat? Just overall comfort?

I feel like when I do ground hunt I will mix in a little still hunting as well so having a chair with me seems like a lot to carry, etc. However, being new to archery ground hunting I don't know for sure.
To answer your first question: This thing is so light, you gain the ability to remain completely still and to sit down while hunting on foot. If you have still hunted much, you know that searching with your eyes (and your nose) is super important. You always want to see or smell them before they see or smell you. Glassing standing up glassing, or holding your bow or gun can get exhausting. You literally stand there and pick apart sections of bedding cover either crosswind or in the wind. I like to identify bedding locations ahead of time and then if I'm bored after hanging or sitting in the morning, start still hunting these daytime cover spots. You take two steps, glass and glass etc. and then move again. Well with the seat, you can still hunt right up to the bedding area and then rather than just keep moving, when you get to within 50 to 75 yards, you can set up and wait or call to them. You will have something on your back to sit on no matter what area you find yourself in. Of course, you can do this with your saddle as well by just setting up on the ground like people do with the sit drag. But this will keep you in the game longer and keep you patient longer. If the wind switches you can move with it as well.

As far as just hunting from the ground, take your bow-gear strap and hanger with you and the seat, but rather than climbing a tree, just setup like you would with your saddle on the ground. Hang your bow holder on a tree, clear out space for your pac seat and settle in. Get yourself a gillie suit top or one of @Red Beard's bow ghillies and you are on your way to a super mobile setup that you can switch in real time. The major advantage is you can switch up from still hunting to stand hunting on the ground whenever straight still-hunting gets tiring. I like it during gun season especially, you identify morning bedding places and hike in then set up for a couple of hours then still hunt for an hour, then sit for an hour or two, then still hunt some more, then be ready for the afternoon movement back to food sources.
 
This may be a usless opinion, but it's the only one I got, LOL.
When I am hunting on the ground and I have the same camo head to toe I get picked more then if I break it up. One camo on pants, shirt different, some times a lite vest in another and face mask in another. The more different the patterns the better.
Dan Infalt has a video talking about this very thing. I agree. You don't necessarily even need camo. I have had bucks within 15 yards on the ground while wearing a gaudy hunter orange hoodie I got off Amazon for $12. Back cover, wind advantage, and remaining still are all more important that making sure you match. Too many camo patterns are too fine and tend to blob out past 20 yards and make you look like a solid human shaped object. Big, blocky patterns are better and that is what having different camo patterns does. Jason Samkowiak has a video on camo patterns on his YouTube channel Bowhunting and Wilderness Podcast that demonstrates this effect. All in all, good back cover is very important since deer don't see depth as well as we do, and good back cover allows you as a hunter to blend in and it breaks up the human silhouette that so often gets us busted.
 
Just looked up that video from Dan Infalt. Never watched him, but Dan is a smart guy!
Being a older traditional bowhunter I wore alot of Filson plaid wool and it worked.
 
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I'm going to admit. As I get more into trad (hunting in general), I do see how staying on the ground make a lot of sense and has more pros then treestand/saddle. But to be honest I'm going to keep going up a tree because I simply like being in the tree. I love being high and looking down onto nature. The view is what does it for me.
 
I'm going to admit. As I get more into trad (hunting in general), I do see how staying on the ground make a lot of sense and has more pros then treestand/saddle. But to be honest I'm going to keep going up a tree because I simply like being in the tree. I love being high and looking down onto nature. The view is what does it for me.
There is nothing better than being in a tree on a breezy day where you were rocking gently in the limbs. Don’t get me wrong I love being in a tree. It’s just with where I live the places I have access to the ground makes a lot of sense.
 
They both have there place. After I got my first tree stand in 83, I got married to them and thought you had to be in a tree to kill a deer. I found good places to hunt, but because there was no good tree I moved on. Then I read Fred Asbell's book Stalking & Sill hunting which he talks alot about DIY ground blinds did I change my game plan. Now when I find a good spot, I choose the best option for that spot. I typically hunt funnels in the morning from a tree and hunt close to bedding areas in the evening on the ground. A Pac Seat let's me move close to bedding areas undetected.
 
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