Bowmar’s Sentenced for Wildlife Violations

[Arrowsquirrel]

I've used cad software a bit and circular stuff isn't too hard once you work with it a little. Couple YouTube videos would probably get you there.

 

[jsh909]

I have used kissers, serving knots etc and to be honest, the nose button is just a better more functional device. The way its designed with 360 degrees of those little points let you really find a tiny spot with the very sensitive tip of your nose again and again regardless of string rotation. Its amazing how you can feel those little tips and get them in just the right spot. There is a reason Levi Morgan, one of the best to ever do it, shoots the nose button and not some other kisser/knot etc. It really irritates me that the bowmars have the patent on this device.

I have never used a kisser, so I can't speak to their effectiveness, but it seems like a lot of variables could change mouth corner position. I am glad there are guys that find this product useful. I have just never seen the benefit over a knot, but the way it sounds maybe I am missing something. I wish I didn't have to support (what sounds like) poachers to do so.

Levi Morgan is an amazing shooter, but correct me if I am wrong here but isn't he in partnership with the Bowmars (along with Paige Pierce) so I would assume he would push their product rather than a different option.

 

[Arrowsquirrel]

I have never used a kisser, so I can't speak to their effectiveness, but it seems like a lot of variables could change mouth corner position. I am glad there are guys that find this product useful. I have just never seen the benefit over a knot, but the way it sounds maybe I am missing something. I wish I didn't have to support (what sounds like) poachers to do so.

Levi Morgan is an amazing shooter, but correct me if I am wrong here but isn't he in partnership with the Bowmars (along with Paige Pierce) so I would assume he would push their product rather than a different option.

It's a nose button. Works a lot better than a mouth button. The sharp points contact the end of your nose and in my opinion really helps with a consistent anchor.

 

[Nutterbuster]

Wow.
Don't talk to Dad for ten years because of a squirrel.
Sounds to me like there is a tick more to it.....but maybe not.

Who said it was a squirrel? Old man may have shot 50 in a day for the 2nd day in a row.

 

[Weldabeast]

When I first removed my peep I just kept shooting as normal anticipating adding some kind of kisser/button/knot but I didn't notice any difference in accuracy. Muscle memory?idk

1 less thing to worry about

 

[BackSpasm]

When I first removed my peep I just kept shooting as normal anticipating adding some kind of kisser/button/knot but I didn't notice any difference in accuracy. Muscle memory?idk

1 less thing to worry about

I have found it really helps when you are a terrible shot in the first place

 

[jsh909]

It's a nose button. Works a lot better than a mouth button. The sharp points contact the end of your nose and in my opinion really helps with a consistent anchor.

Ok, now I see the disconnect. Yes I have been using a nose button for over 30 years. Just not the bowmar one. I simply make my own.

I thought you were saying his works better than mine and that's where the confusion happened. Not saying his didn't work just was confused how it could work better.

In reality you were saying nose buttons in general are more consistent. On that we are in 100 percent agreement

 

[1simplemann]

One of my biggest pet pieves is poachers or anyone who would intentionally set out to break the law in order to kill animals, I’ve said this before but I once reported my own dad for killing over the limit on squirrels when I was 15, if I knew them it was wrong to do then why can’t grown men make the same distinction. I’ve always said tv shouldn’t be in hunting unless to strictly be educational, especially nowadays with all the “YouTube experts” trophy hunting and doing unethical or questionable things just for likes and clicks. I’ve always been in the camp of hunting should be done strictly to get meat, PERIOD it shouldn’t be a sport. It’s a double edged sword though I know bc at the same time they wouldn’t get the conservation funding they need. Ugh what a world we live in.

Dude, that's cold. Would you turn him in for driving over the speed limit? When I was kid, we didn't have a lot money. We lived on venison all year. Hardly ever ate chicken. Most of the time my Dad kept the freezer full. However if he didn't get enough deer during season, he went got one out of season. If he didn't, we didn't eat meat. I ain't say 'n it was legally right, cause it wasn't. But IMO it was morally right. Glad you patched things up him, you only get one of those. I should call my Dad right now and thank him.

 

[The_Fit_Ness_Monster]

Dude, that's cold. Would you turn him in for driving over the speed limit? When I was kid, we didn't have a lot money. We lived on venison all year. Hardly ever ate chicken. Most of the time my Dad kept the freezer full. However if he didn't get enough deer during season, he went got one out of season. If he didn't, we didn't eat meat. I ain't say 'n it was legally right, cause it wasn't. But IMO it was morally right. Glad you patched things up him, you only get one of those. I should call my Dad right now and thank him.

No I wouldn’t, I’ve said on a post before I don’t care about traffic laws in the slightest but wildlife laws I follow to a T, we as hunters already have a bad rep to non hunters and I grew up around a lot of PoS adults who definitely helped with that bad rep and I will not contribute to it. Growing up poor and off and on homeless until around 10 yrs old I can completely understand that. But at that time we weren’t poor and didn’t need to kill more than the limit we weren’t starving in the slightest.

 

[1simplemann]

No I wouldn’t, I’ve said on a post before I don’t care about traffic laws in the slightest but wildlife laws I follow to a T, we as hunters already have a bad rep to non hunters and I grew up around a lot of PoS adults who definitely helped with that bad rep and I will not contribute to it. Growing up poor and off and on homeless until around 10 yrs old I can completely understand that. But at that time we weren’t poor and didn’t need to kill more than the limit we weren’t starving in the slightest.

Good. We need more guys like you in the woods. Self control at a young age is hard to come by. I know I didn't have it then. Thankfully I have out grown that stage. Don't sweat the small stuff though. A squirrel is hardly worth losing a relationship over. If you want to see some good squirrel kill'n, you should check out EdGun Leshiy on YouTube. Hilarious.

 

[Bwhana]

No I wouldn’t, I’ve said on a post before I don’t care about traffic laws in the slightest but wildlife laws I follow to a T, we as hunters already have a bad rep to non hunters and I grew up around a lot of PoS adults who definitely helped with that bad rep and I will not contribute to it. Growing up poor and off and on homeless until around 10 yrs old I can completely understand that. But at that time we weren’t poor and didn’t need to kill more than the limit we weren’t starving in the slightest.

Just observing your statements so far. You selectively choose which laws to uphold or report and decide which are right? You do you, and it doesn’t matter either way to me personally, but that is an interesting moral stance to prioritize hunting over general public safety (and likely others). FYI, your words are written on a publicly available and searchable forum and would likely not be taken well by many of the non-hunting public you say others have hurt our reputation with. Just food for thought…

 

[neonomad]

Just listened to Bowmar’s long interview on Kifarucast… his demeanor and message wasn’t always perfect in the conversation, but my opinion is that it’s entirely possible that his story is pretty close to the truth: (1) they didn’t poach, but (2) they turned a blind eye to some warning signs surrounding the operation, which was poor judgement. I don’t have any real reason not to believe him, and to my ear their story sounds pretty reasonable. And you know what, I think he mighta burned his truck on accident. Screwing up is just as common, probably moreso, than malice in our world.

 

[BTaylor]

Just listened to Bowmar’s long interview on Kifarucast… his demeanor and message wasn’t always perfect in the conversation, but my opinion is that it’s entirely possible that his story is pretty close to the truth: (1) they didn’t poach, but (2) they turned a blind eye to some warning signs surrounding the operation, which was poor judgement. I don’t have any real reason not to believe him, and to my ear their story sounds pretty reasonable. And you know what, I think he mighta burned his truck on accident. Screwing up is just as common, probably moreso, than malice in our world.

Couple weeks ago I had a bad grease flare up on the grill. The grill is inside the screened patio. First attempt to get it choked out didnt work and it very quickly was getting out of hand. Wife was sorta freakin a little asked about 911 or the fire extinguisher, I told her to grab the box of baking soda and was able to end the fire quickly with that. I managed to save the burgers, the grill and the patio but you know the one thing that never crossed either of our minds? Video for freaking instagram.

 

[neonomad]

Couple weeks ago I had a bad grease flare up on the grill. The grill is inside the screened patio. First attempt to get it choked out didnt work and it very quickly was getting out of hand. Wife was sorta freakin a little asked about 911 or the fire extinguisher, I told her to grab the box of baking soda and was able to end the fire quickly with that. I managed to save the burgers, the grill and the patio but you know the one thing that never crossed either of our minds? Video for freaking instagram.

You apparently aren’t in the content generation business my man!

 

[BTaylor]

You apparently aren’t in the content generation business my man!

That is a fact but I feel it says a lot about the character of the individual if they have someone film something like a vehicle being burned up rather than having that person assist in saving the vehicle or the stuff in it. At the end of the day, you are certainly entitled to believe whatever you want to believe about those folks or any others. I just happen to see a mountain of evidence over an extended period of time that shows a pattern of disregard for morals, good decision making and the law.

 

[Hall17]

Couple weeks ago I had a bad grease flare up on the grill. The grill is inside the screened patio. First attempt to get it choked out didnt work and it very quickly was getting out of hand. Wife was sorta freakin a little asked about 911 or the fire extinguisher, I told her to grab the box of baking soda and was able to end the fire quickly with that. I managed to save the burgers, the grill and the patio but you know the one thing that never crossed either of our minds? Video for freaking instagram.

I have no reason to comment on this topic because #1 I could care less about them and #2 I have not read really any details into them.

However, I am with you on this. The thought of filming my truck on fire is not even remotely an idea in my mind. But I guess anything for "likes" these days. @BTaylor can you like this so I feel validated please. Thank you

 

[BTaylor]

I have no reason to comment on this topic because #1 I could care less about them and #2 I have not read really any details into them.

However, I am with you on this. The thought of filming my truck on fire is not even remotely an idea in my mind. But I guess anything for "likes" these days. @BTaylor can you like this so I feel validated please. Thank you

The value of my validation is not widely known but if someone figures it out I will let you know.

 

[Plebe]

That is a fact but I feel it says a lot about the character of the individual if they have someone film something like a vehicle being burned up rather than having that person assist in saving the vehicle or the stuff in it. At the end of the day, you are certainly entitled to believe whatever you want to believe about those folks or any others. I just happen to see a mountain of evidence over an extended period of time that shows a pattern of disregard for morals, good decision making and the law.

 

[BowhunterXC]

Until I read this post, I've never heard of this couple or know anything about them.
Sounds like I'm better off and they got what they had coming.

 

[neonomad]

Until I read this post, I've never heard of this couple or know anything about them.
Sounds like I'm better off and they got what they had coming.

I’m soul searching, and here may be the deeper source of my defense of them… Josh has a video for a method of peep tie in where you don’t cinch down the two ends of the diamond where your string splits for the peep. Works pretty good and has solved some peep rotation issues for me. For this I am grateful.