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"Chinaderic" Knockoff Rage Hypodermic Review and Results

Nutterbuster

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I bought a dozen "Chinadermics" off of Ebay, because I like Rage but $15 a pop is a bit ridiculous for what's quite possibly a throw away arrow. A short arrow going real fast in mud and palmettos often means a lost arrow. So far I've shot at 9 deer this season and recovered only 2 arrows intact. That gets expensive quick. I posted a while ago asking about durable heads, but got to thinking about the loss rate and decided that didn't make sense.

So anyway. Chinadermics. $30 for 2 dozen of them, making them about one tenth the cost of the official ones. There wasn't a dime's worth of difference in them once they showed up, and they all weighed within a couple grains of 100 and did well on a spin test. They were about as sharp as the real hypodermic I had in my quiver, so I went hunting with them.

Killed 1 doe so far with them. Caught both scapulas and ended up with 2 bent blades, which is honestly par for the course with mechs. But I got full penetration and lost $1.50. I plan on shooting them until they give me a reason not to, and trying to take pictures and do more write ups for folks.
 
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I bought almost a dozen of those when the fairy dust hit this summer and someone here didn't want them anymore. I lost a few arrows lately and got out some spare arrows and screwed these on for future hunts.
 
Finally the “knockoffs” are catching on. Been shooting shwackers from CHY-NA for 3 years. Stop paying $40 for 3 dinky broadheads. Now that a respected SH member posted about it im sure the coolaid will be passed around and sipped.


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So I use lighted knocks, don't hunt in mud and palmettos and have shot 4 deer and 1 coyote so far with the same broadhead. As far as cost effective, this is the best I've ever had. I've recovered all arrows/pieces this far. Not all of the carbon DCA arrows held up but the nock held up until the coyote chewed it off after a hard quartering away shot. At $39 for a 3 pack (and cheaper with never ending sales) I'll stick to the fixed blade Tooth of the Arrow broadheads I've been shooting this year. I shot both the Chinadermic and Tooth of the Arrow through plywood and have the results in the attached thread. Granted a deer isn't plywood but it speaks of the durability of both somewhat. I'd rather not possibly subject my family to a broken razor blade in meat or possibly find one in my hand when gutting a deer out in the field.
All this being said, I do want to send a Chinadermic through a doe and I have one last tag left and a pile of Chinadermics. @Nutterbuster have you had issues with the plastic blade retention collars not holding the blades tight and/or blades inadvertently popping out? I find myself checking them constantly after I've had them pop loose.
 
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So I use lighted knocks, don't hunt in mud and palmettos and have shot 4 deer and 1 coyote so far with the same broadhead. As far as cost effective, this is the best I've ever had. I've recovered all arrows/pieces this far. Not all of the carbon DCA arrows held up but the nock held up until the coyote chewed it off after a hard quartering away shot. At $39 for a 3 pack (and cheaper with never ending sales) I'll stick to the fixed blade Tooth of the Arrow broadheads I've been shooting this year. I shot both the Chinadermic and Tooth of the Arrow through plywood and have the results in the attached thread. Granted a deer isn't plywood but it speaks of the durability of both somewhat. I'd rather not possibly subject my family to a broken razor blade in meat or possibly find one in my hand when gutting a deer out in the field.
All this being said, I do want to send a Chinadermic through a doe and I have one last tag left and a pile of Chinadermics. @Nutterbuster have you had issues with the plastic blade retention collars not holding the blades tight and/or blades inadvertently popping out? I find myself checking them constantly after I've had them pop loose.
Mine have been fine so far. I've had one or two that were a little wobbly, but I've had real Rage heads do the same thing.
 
Mine have been fine so far. I've had one or two that were a little wobbly, but I've had real Rage heads do the same thing.
Yeah same as me with the real Rages. They probably have several different manufacturers on the Chinadermics I'm guessing.
 
I spined a mature buck two years ago with a rage hypodermic +p . I put the finishing shot on him with a chinadermic. The original rage severed a vertebrae and remained intact. I still have the vertebrae with the rage stuck in it in perfect condition. The chinadermic was a lung shot. Both blades broke off inside the deer and it did not penetrate the other side. I have since switched courses and gone to fixed blades but I wouldn't want to be throwing chinadermic at a mature buck personally. For a doe I think it would get the job done though just fine.
 
Update.

I've killed 1 coyote, 2 deer, and a big boar hog with the chinadermics this year. I don't remember how many deer I killed with them last year but I have not had any issues with them whatsoever, other than maybe it psyching me out a bit to pull what I know is a sub-$2 piece of metal out of the plastic bag they shipped in and screw it on an arrow to hunt with.

Most of them have survived and appeared in good working order. A couple have had bent blades. None have broken. They are on the whole not as sharp as the genuine product, but I suspect that is because they get packed and shipped loose in batches of a dozen and that dulls them some. I have not sharpened a single one in the name of science, and I have not failed to kill any critters that I put good shots on.

I can't find a reason to not be happy with them TBH. I've considered switching to the Shwacker design because I've always considered Shwacker/Rage to be interchangeable in the big-honkin'-two-blade-mech category and the Shwackers retain the cutting edge inside the body of the head which I'm guessing would make for a sharper blade, but it's a problem that seems to not need fixing.

I think if you like the design, there's $0 reason to pay $15 for a head. My experience with my batch is that they are equivalent, and I've shot several packs of the real deal at critters. The design cuts big holes, flies great, and performs fine on what I consider "reasonable bone" regardless of whether or not is says "RAGE" on the package.
 
I tried to shoot a doe with one this year and had the plastic collar blow apart leaving the mini and the arrow flight was super erratic once the blades were deployed. I shot way low, the arrow skipped and stuck in a tree. They're a few years old so I'm assuming the collars are getting brittle? I went back to my fixed blade. Glad they're working for you though, can't beat the price!
 
I tried to shoot a doe with one this year and had the plastic collar blow apart leaving the mini and the arrow flight was super erratic once the blades were deployed. I shot way low, the arrow skipped and stuck in a tree. They're a few years old so I'm assuming the collars are getting brittle? I went back to my fixed blade. Glad they're working for you though, can't beat the price!
I tried to shoot a doe with one this year and had the plastic collar blow apart leaving the mini and the arrow flight was super erratic once the blades were deployed. I shot way low, the arrow skipped and stuck in a tree. They're a few years old so I'm assuming the collars are getting brittle? I went back to my fixed blade. Glad they're working for you though, can't beat the price!
I'm not sure that I've ever shot a broadhead that was older than a season or two. No issues with my collars so far.

I honestly like the Rage collar design the least out of all mech designs I've seen. I prefer the Grim Reaper and Spitfire style heads that rely on a steel spring and friction to hold the blades in place. I just couldn't find any knockoffs.
 
I'm not sure that I've ever shot a broadhead that was older than a season or two. No issues with my collars so far.

I honestly like the Rage collar design the least out of all mech designs I've seen. I prefer the Grim Reaper and Spitfire style heads that rely on a steel spring and friction to hold the blades in place. I just couldn't find any knockoffs.
I really want them to work for me due to cost but I just don't seem to have good luck with em. The fixed Tooth of the Arrow are going up in price so I've been eyeballing the muzzy 3 blade knock offs lately. Or maybe the pink g5 knock offs...
 
It's difficult, but I don't buy anything made in China unless I absolutely need the item and I can't find a version that's made elsewhere.
I'd gladly pay double or triple the price for a non China product, especially something like a broadhead. That country is screwing us. Gotta get off the addiction of buying cheap crap from them. Spend your money at home when you can.
 
I'll pay for things made here but for the guys liking the expandable heads, I'm assuming most are made overseas anyways. I'd venture to guess most larger broadhead companies fixed or not have shifted manufacturing overseas too.
For guys shooting multiple deer a year and losing a few heads, a $30 head lost isn't exactly a feasible option either. I understand the need/want for a decent cheaper option.
 
It's difficult, but I don't buy anything made in China unless I absolutely need the item and I can't find a version that's made elsewhere.
I'd gladly pay double or triple the price for a non China product, especially something like a broadhead. That country is screwing us. Gotta get off the addiction of buying cheap crap from them. Spend your money at home when you can.
The moral and economic pros and cons of trade with China have been discussed to tedium elsewhere, and violate house rules. If you're aware of a feasible alternative manufactured stateside, I'm all ears. Particularly if they're stamping their blades from US mined and refined steel.
 
I'll pay for things made here but for the guys liking the expandable heads, I'm assuming most are made overseas anyways. I'd venture to guess most larger broadhead companies fixed or not have shifted manufacturing overseas too.
For guys shooting multiple deer a year and losing a few heads, a $30 head lost isn't exactly a feasible option either. I understand the need/want for a decent cheaper option.
I wasnt strictly saying not to buy overseas. I was saying dont buy CHINA if you can avoid it

Hey, I get it...a lot of times we have no other option so we buy their crap.
I purposely check the "made-in" tag before I make a purchase and if it says made in China, I ask myself do I really need it and if so, can I find the item made elsewhere.
 
I shot the chinese rage and they did great. I now shoot the chinese swhackers.
 
Do you have a link to the chwackers by chance? I'm down to 2 virgin heads. I know I didn't shoot 22 of them, but I think I gifted half of mine to a buddy.
They were $12.59/dozen when I bought them. They're $17.99 now.
 
I ordered 36 chinawackers last week since i have burned through my 24 in the last 5 years. I also noticed they went up in price. Anyone know where to get chinaturnal lighted knocks?


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