Cruzr xc reinforced

[2Sloe]

Also for reference, here is that same buckle next to an $8 tatical belt I got from EtsyView attachment 78325
The waist belt is designed to keep you attached to the saddle, not to take direct weight in a fall so like I said, I wouldn’t be concerned. To the original post, I also wouldn’t modify the stitch count either. There are so many variables when sewing into that thick milspec webbing they use. Thread size and type, needle size, needle shape, stitches per inch… you aren’t sure of any of those so going back over the stitches for fun could damage the original threads, could weaken your webbing as mentioned above AND are you even sure you have a machine capable of stitching even thread tension through these materials? The XC uses a thick nylon, not a thin seat belt for the main chassis, I can tell you first hand it requires a real machine to put T138 thread through webbing that thick and also have good thread tension across the bottom. Why chance weakening your perfectly good saddle for fun? Instead go onto strapworks and order you some webbing, go to rocky woods and get some mesh, then practice sewing those materials as a DIY build like many of us who started. Obviously use it at ground level. It’ll give you a great appreciation for how well made that Cruzr is and how much one costs

I thought that as well. I’m certainly no expert, I just read a lot and I had read about stitch counts and how high stitch counts, different needle designs etc., could actually cut the material to the point of weakening it. When I said that I was sure some experts would chime in who do you think I was talking about lol. Yeah, it was you. Ha! Ha!

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

No doubt. And I think that you would agree that there’s a difference between being ”different” and being unsafe. I will also admit that I am not an engineer and that I can’t tell the inherent strength of one design over another just by looking at it. I do however, find it really hard to believe that Cruzr buys their buckles off of Alibaba or EBay. I also find it hard to believe that Cruzr puts a buckle on their saddle that has not been tested to the ratings stamped on the buckle. That would be akin to fraud and I personally don’t think Cruzr is that type of company.

I don’t know where they buy them from or what testing they have done and I won’t pretend to. I think their saddle is very well made and I never felt unsafe using it.
I do however know that Austrialpin makes the strongest quick release buckles available and independent tests have proven as much. Many times when a company starts, they don’t have the resources to get higher end materials or pay for testing. Chad put out a you tube video once showing him hooking his saddle to a come along and pulling it to somewhere around 2900 lbs. while that’s not a real scientific testing method, it demonstrates his confidence in his saddles. This was like two years ago. Nowadays I think he probably has them third party tested instead

 

[2Sloe]

I don’t know where they buy them from or what testing they have done and I won’t pretend to. I think their saddle is very well made and I never felt unsafe using it.
I do however know that Austrialpin makes the strongest quick release buckles available and independent tests have proven as much. Many times when a company starts, they don’t have the resources to get higher end materials or pay for testing. Chad put out a you tube video once showing him hooking his saddle to a come along and pulling it to somewhere around 2900 lbs. while that’s not a real scientific testing method, it demonstrates his confidence in his saddles. This was like two years ago. Nowadays I think he probably has them third party tested instead

I have thoughts on that, but I’m going to wrap it up. I would agree that most company’s probably do 3rd party testing for insurance purposes if nothing else. Good conversation. Stay safe my friend.

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

I have thoughts on that, but I’m going to wrap it up. I would agree that most company’s probably do 3rd party testing for insurance purposes if nothing else. Good conversation. Stay safe my friend.

You are well sir

 

[Weldabeast]

So which saddle are 3rd party tested and which aren't?

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

So which saddle are 3rd party tested and which aren't?

Who even knows anymore? Since there isn’t an official standard there is no way to enforce testing and the tests available aren’t officially adopted fully so it’s like the Wild West currently

 

[2Sloe]

Who even knows anymore? Since there isn’t an official standard there is no way to enforce testing and the tests available aren’t officially adopted fully so it’s like the Wild West currently

Can’t even design a test without a standard to measure against. Therefore most tests seem to be designed to allay fears, and instill confidence rather than measuring against a known standard value.

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

Can’t even design a test without a standard to measure against. Therefore most tests seem to be designed to allay fears, and instill confidence rather than measuring against a known standard value.

Most use the full body fall arrest tests. They are super strenuous but definitely aren’t a match to our uses. There are a couple proposed tests and one facility is already set up to use the proposed testing. In my mind it’s closer to our use but maybe not all encompassing at least as the lineman loops or waist belt would be concerned