Ok everyone, the problem with you backing up by tying into one linesman loop is that when the fall occurs, the most likely outcome would be that the loop violently spins you sideways/face first while it breaks and drops you. Very few saddles have linesman loops capable of arresting a fall when used properly, let alone arresting a fall from only one connection. Want to know what I mean? Look at some of these rated eye to eye cords that you use for distel or VT hitches. When hooked in straight pull the rating is much much lower that when hooked in basket configuration. Your linesman loops are essentially the same. They work in basket configuration and split the force between the two connection points. If you’re tied into one side, it will be almost scary how quickly your flipped and the eye snaps so you now fall face first instead of backwards. They are not designed to catch you. The only saddles I know of that has true continuous loop for a thing off to would be the phantom and the new aerohunter saddles. Aerohunter sews theirs all the way around flat to the mesh BUT it does not attach to the safety belt so you most likely would still fall as the mesh or cordura ripped. On the phantom the continuous loop is bar tacked into the top and bottom which is strong but many of those bartacks would be pulling against the direction of the fall so many of them would bust. Of all the saddles, that’s the only one I think would possibly hold you as your back up connection point. *** On another note*** if you have a fall that is severe enough to break your friction hitch/ or your bridge (initial connection point) you have generated enough force that you’re most likely dead, or so badly injured that you would wish you were dead. So even if that secondary connection did hold you, it would be holding a dead or permanently paralyzed person in that tree. And it would not be holding you face up to help recover. I know all of this sounds harsh. But at 1800 lbs of force your body suffers potentially life ending injury. If you broke a friction hitch or a bridge that holds at over 3000 lbs, then you’ve well surpassed that 1800 lbs of force. Just some food for thought. I believe firmly in safety. But unless you’re wearing a secondary tether, or keeping on your linesman rope as the secondary connection, then you aren’t doing anything that will truly save you. That is why I personally don’t worry about tying my tether into my linesman loop or back to my bridge.
although we do not use ropes for climbing, we use a belt/webbing with a cinch style pole lock similar to a buck squeeze.
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