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Do you tie off your saddle to the end of your tether?

Do you tie in to the end of your tether?

  • Yes

    Votes: 46 46.0%

  • No

    Votes: 54 54.0%
  • Total voters
    100
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
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I was referring to 3rd party certified testing labs that use meters to measure force and drop certified weights from certified measurable distances. I don’t count static pulls as direct correlations to dynamic loading either
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I stand corrected I did not realize hunting saddle company’s had videos out on measurable strength testing of saddles?
 
rhagenw said:
I stand corrected I did not realize hunting saddle company’s had videos out on measurable strength testing of saddles?
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I have seen some that do. I’ve also seen some that just go out in the woods would a scale and a come along.
 
philsanchez76 said:
Not really. I would be if I was only wearing the belt. The belt has leg loops too which spread out the force. With my dynamic rope and screamer in line my worst case scenario force applied should be less than 1 KN.
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Man less force than 225 lbs? I do like the idea of dynamic rope and your screamer. It sounds like you take your safety to next level. Thank you for your response.
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
Man less force than 225 lbs? I do like the idea of dynamic rope and your screamer. It sounds like you take your safety to next level. Thank you for your response.
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Of course. I fell out of a tree 2 years ago and it was a wake up call!! I take it pretty serious now. And of course my data is all based on a fall calculator and data collected from these individual rope manufacturing companies. I’ve not tested any of this in real life other than that falling out of a tree sucks.
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
Ok everyone, the problem with you backing up by tying into one linesman loop is that when the fall occurs, the most likely outcome would be that the loop violently spins you sideways/face first while it breaks and drops you. Very few saddles have linesman loops capable of arresting a fall when used properly, let alone arresting a fall from only one connection. Want to know what I mean? Look at some of these rated eye to eye cords that you use for distel or VT hitches. When hooked in straight pull the rating is much much lower that when hooked in basket configuration. Your linesman loops are essentially the same. They work in basket configuration and split the force between the two connection points. If you’re tied into one side, it will be almost scary how quickly your flipped and the eye snaps so you now fall face first instead of backwards. They are not designed to catch you. The only saddles I know of that has true continuous loop for a thing off to would be the phantom and the new aerohunter saddles. Aerohunter sews theirs all the way around flat to the mesh BUT it does not attach to the safety belt so you most likely would still fall as the mesh or cordura ripped. On the phantom the continuous loop is bar tacked into the top and bottom which is strong but many of those bartacks would be pulling against the direction of the fall so many of them would bust. Of all the saddles, that’s the only one I think would possibly hold you as your back up connection point. *** On another note*** if you have a fall that is severe enough to break your friction hitch/ or your bridge (initial connection point) you have generated enough force that you’re most likely dead, or so badly injured that you would wish you were dead. So even if that secondary connection did hold you, it would be holding a dead or permanently paralyzed person in that tree. And it would not be holding you face up to help recover. I know all of this sounds harsh. But at 1800 lbs of force your body suffers potentially life ending injury. If you broke a friction hitch or a bridge that holds at over 3000 lbs, then you’ve well surpassed that 1800 lbs of force. Just some food for thought. I believe firmly in safety. But unless you’re wearing a secondary tether, or keeping on your linesman rope as the secondary connection, then you aren’t doing anything that will truly save you. That is why I personally don’t worry about tying my tether into my linesman loop or back to my bridge.
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Ok. Ill stop trying my tag end to the linesman loop.
 
I marked "no" but do have the tag end tied into a figure 8 and clip it into the bridge carabiner. I do this so that the tag end isn't swinging around, not as a safety backup.
 
gcr0003 said:
I’m not asking why. I’m asking yes or no to your own question. Don’t be lame!
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Aw hush...

I tie into my bridge biner in a saddle, and into my loop on an RC harness, and use friction hitches as progress capture or positioning aid (see what I did there). I try to leave as little slack as possible in the section of rope below that hitch, and my tie in point.
 
kyler1945 said:
Aw hush...

I tie into my bridge biner in a saddle, and into my loop on an RC harness, and use friction hitches as progress capture or positioning aid (see what I did there). I try to leave as little slack as possible in the section of rope below that hitch, and my tie in point.
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Que chulo thanks for sharing
 
Zero One Actual said:
I used to skate sick vert ramps with no helmet. I ended up here worried about testing and numbers. I’m old.
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When you’re young, you feel invincible. Like you have your whole life ahead of you. At 20 it was nothing for me to do a backflip off my high dive into the water. 20 years later you couldn’t pay me to try. Also I realized when I do get hurt, I don’t heal up as quickly as I did back then lol
 
philsanchez76 said:
Not really. I would be if I was only wearing the belt. The belt has leg loops too which spread out the force. With my dynamic rope and screamer in line my worst case scenario force applied should be less than 1 KN.
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Hee, Hee. Leg loops? All the really smart guys cut those off the day they get their saddle cuz they’re “uncomfortable“ walking in. They won’t feel any shock forces….till they squirt out the bottom of their saddle and hit the ground. Lol.
 
2Sloe said:
Hee, Hee. Leg loops? All the really smart guys cut those off the day they get their saddle cuz they’re “uncomfortable“ walking in. They won’t feel any shock forces….till they squirt out the bottom of their saddle and hit the ground. Lol.
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I am also sure that leg loops with g hooks are load bearing so they help absorb that fall :sweatsmile:
Besides the new trend is removable leg straps. Because all of us will take the saddle off and feed the straps back through to use them after all that walking without them
 
Fl Canopy Stalker said:
I am also sure that leg loops with g hooks are load bearing so they help absorb that fall :sweatsmile:
Besides the new trend is removable leg straps. Because all of us will take the saddle off and feed the straps back through to use them after all that walking without them
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I would submit that they will assist in absorbing the fall, even if they were to ultimately fail. I would compare it to crumple zones in a car, which fail, but serve a purpose during failure. Every little bit helps, I can’t see why someone would give that up when all you have to do is loosen the straps for the walk in. I can‘t imagine wearing a saddle without them. I also don’t want my saddle to end up around my chest. My waist is smaller than my hips and there is no doubt in my mind that is what would happen if I had a fall without leg loops.
 
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