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Easiest climbing methods for old guys

I agree with you 100% Dan safety is the most important part. The strap itself is definitely a different material and makes up for a lot of the bulk reduction. Buckle slightly smaller. Attached is another pic ocb strap was approx 18” longer so I just made them same length and rewrapped them. You do have to thread through cam everytime but I’ve had no issues doing that.
 

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Does anyone know what the weight rating is/was on the original API Skyhook straps? Must have been enough to bring them to a mass market originally.
 
I’ve been trying to find that out as well nothing on the inter webs as of yet.
 
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In your last pic, which is presumably an original Skyhook strap, what is the point of that loop with the slide on it to the right of the buckle?
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I’m not following sorry but here is another of strap. The loop is to hold the step captured near buckle so doesn’t flop around on main strap. You’d thread step onto main line than thread main line back through that slide capturing the step.
 

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Here’s api skyhook and strap
 

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Labonte.r said:
I’m not following sorry but here is another of strap. The loop is to hold the step captured near buckle so doesn’t flop around on main strap. You’d thread step onto main line than thread main line back through that slide capturing the step.
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I got you. That makes sense. Thanks.
 
I am 51 and am using both the Stacked Outdoors Sticks (4 pack) with an CAYG Aider and/or I also have 12 of the WE Stepps. I like them both but I'm quicker and feel a bit more smooth in the tree with the Stacked Outdoors Sticks. I don't like the buckle straps that came with them so I placed an order for the climb rated Daisy Chain (Versa Straps) from Dan O's business. I also have/use the 11mm prussic rope but I haven't developed a knot system I trust completely yet with the ropes. The Stacked sticks essentially allow you to boat hitch tie the rope to them but I didn't trust it completely so I went back to the stock buckle straps that came with it until I get my Daisy Chain straps in. What I liked about the ropes is they are way lighter and less bulky then the buckle straps and you can fit them all nicely in your syshauler or dump pouch. I'm hoping the daisy chain straps provide the same kind of packable convenience the ropes do and are much quieter than the buckle straps and quicker/easier to strap around the tree than the ropes. In my experience less "monkeying" with the straps/ropes/climbing system equates to easier, quicker and quieter set ups for us gray beards.
 
cedar paul said:
The art of correctly tying the Michocan is that the end(eyes) need to be the same length after taking slack out of your hitch coils. I walk to my setups(rope preset in tree) put on foot ascender and Rope runner then go up tree so mud is not an issue. I used a combination of bolts with the Ridgerunner and a set 0f 3 W.E. steps for platforms for the other 2 presets. My platforms are only probably 20-22' high so I can be up there pretty quick and use the end of my climbing rope to pull up bow . I have eliminated having to use a seperate pull up line( but I still carry one) and a tree tether adjuster as I have the Rope runner in place and ready to go.
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Paul, how long will you leave a preset rope in the tree? All season? I've thought about this and tried to get answers on it in another thread. The overall consensus was that it should not be done since there's no way to inspect the integrity of the rope from the ground to ensure squirrels or other animals haven't chewed on the rope at any point.
 
Have you compared a Bullman Outdoors strap? Website says 1500 lb break strength. Hard to tell relative bulk or weight from online pic. Sells 6 straps for $25.
 
I experimented last season leaving a hank of Imori in a tree for the months of October and November. No creatures messed with it and it got a good washing but no worse for the wear. I have 2 ropes in the trees right now KM max 3 and a piece of Poison Ivy and will check them in the next couple of days. I was initially reluctant to leave them out in the trees and would suggest anyone doing this do it at your own risk. Critters so far don't have an interest in them and they are in the shade so UV light in not degrading them.
 
Red Beard said:
Paul, how long will you leave a preset rope in the tree? All season? I've thought about this and tried to get answers on it in another thread. The overall consensus was that it should not be done since there's no way to inspect the integrity of the rope from the ground to ensure squirrels or other animals haven't chewed on the rope at any point.
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I have some Bluewater assault line which is hardly used and noticed some fraying on the jacket. I did leave it in the tree in my backyard for a few days recently. It must have been squirrels. No way would I leave a rope in the tree for a full season and just go out and start climbing up it.
 
bj139 said:
I have some Bluewater assault line which is hardly used and noticed some fraying on the jacket. I did leave it in the tree in my backyard for a few days recently. It must have been squirrels. No way would I leave a rope in the tree for a full season and just go out and start climbing up it.
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Thank you sir!
 
I wonder how people used strap on ladders for a whole season in the past or for that matter leaving W.E. steps up for extended periods. Guess squirrels like rope better than nylon strapping or whatever W.E. uses for their straps. That being said I won't leave mine too long without and inspection and suppose I could pull up a secondary line if I had any doubt.
 
cedar paul said:
I wonder how people used strap on ladders for a whole season in the past or for that matter leaving W.E. steps up for extended periods. Guess squirrels like rope better than nylon strapping or whatever W.E. uses for their straps. That being said I won't leave mine too long without and inspection and suppose I could pull up a secondary line if I had any doubt.
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There's a lot less load on those cases. And when people get bit, some chance it happens gradually.
 
cedar paul said:
I wonder how people used strap on ladders for a whole season in the past or for that matter leaving W.E. steps up for extended periods. Guess squirrels like rope better than nylon strapping or whatever W.E. uses for their straps. That being said I won't leave mine too long without and inspection and suppose I could pull up a secondary line if I had any doubt.
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You can never tell with animals or people for that matter. The squirrels may have just thought who put this damn thing in my tree. I want it out of here. Chewed a bit and got distracted and left to find nuts. :grinning:
 
Yeah all true and I'll probably remove them if the rain ever stops as I only hunt on my own property. Not seeing anything I would shoot yet. In all honesty I like climbing trees and shooting a bow but I think this is my last year hunting. While venison can be delicious I would take a good ribeye any day and when you calculate the cost probably less money per pound.
 
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