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First Pass Through and Blood Trail But Unable to Recover

FireInMyBones

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On Thanksgiving morning of 2022, I smoked myself out to cover my scent and did the short walk in to the tree I had previously selected. I climbed the tree with my DIY one-stick and set up in my new DIY Wraptor saddle.

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Within five minutes of silently waiting, a doe showed up on the other side of the barbed-wire fence I was set up near as part of my funnel. The doe paced on the other side of the fence (a large parcel of private property) within 20 yards of me for about ten minutes before turning around and heading off into the trees. I could see a large buck chasing an anxious doe about a quarter mile away across a creek and up an opposing hill when, out of the corner of my eye, I saw the doe return my direction, but on my side of the fence. I couldn't believe it. The wind was perfect. As the doe approached, I tried not to loose the grip on my bow as I freed it from the hook on my tether. The doe kept coming. I was flabbergasted that it hadn't seen me or winded me yet. As it passed behind a tree about 30 yards away, I drew back and held steady. I followed the doe until it came fully out from behind the tree. Everything was going perfect. This was going to be a slight quartering to shot, but I had full faith in my 525gn arrow and cutthroat broadhead. The deer wouldn't stop walking! I tried grunting but I think it sounded more like a squeak. I was about to shoot my first deer. I grunted again, the correct pitch this time, and the doe finally stopped to look around for the source of the noise. I pulled through the shot and my release broke. The arrow flew straight and I hit the back end of the shoulder at 15 yards. I watched the doe leap and I could see the fletching in the dirt on the other side of the fence. The doe took off the way she came and I breathed a sigh of relief.

Checking my watch to start the timer, I noticed that my watch picked up my heightened stress and asked me to calm down. I chuckled and began to slowly pack my gear to get down. I repelled down after 20 minutes and then packed my stick away. As I walked toward my arrow, I saw movement to my right and spooked two other deer heading my way. *I guess I should have hung out a little longer. Too late now.* I pluck my arrow from the dirt and replace it in my quiver to begin the blood trail. Dark bubbly blood.

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I was sure that the deer was piled up at the bottom of the hill near the creek. I followed an incredible blood trail down to the creek. Every time I thought I'd lost it, I found it again. There was more blood than I expected. It was every step. I tracked the blood along the creek until it dipped under the fence of the property to my left. There was a huge gap under the fence where the ground had eroded away. I walked back to my gear, gathered it up, and walked to my truck.

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I drove to the entrance of the gated property about a mile away. The sign at the gate reads "No Hunting" which doesn't bode well. The first person I can get on the digital gate box is the property manager. When I explain the situation he sounds incredibly excited. He's a hunter too and has permission from his clients to hunt and manage game on the property. He'll arrive in about 20 minutes.

He pulls up, opens the gate, and when I tell him the full story he is very excited to pass on any skills he can to me as a novice hunter. We talk as he walks me down to the eroded out fence and then we track the blood across almost two additional miles. One thing I quickly learned is that tracking over grass is a pain. When we find two possible entry spots into a thicket at the end of the trail, I take one and he takes the other. I have no weapon on me (per the request of the land owner), but he has a revolver. I see nothing and back out. He jumps the deer. It barely hobbles out of the thicket, sees me and trots off pouring blood. I broke its shoulder, but hit too far back clipping a lung and puncturing it's liver. I still can't believe that doe had survived so long. I shot the deer at 0830 and this is 1300. I wait for the property manager to come out of the thicket and we start tracking again. After about 100 yards, we can't find a blood trail anymore. We back track only to realize that the deer double backed at some pint and then its trail ran cold. We searched for another hour. Nothing. Since it was Thanksgiving he said that he couldn't help any longer, but that he honored my due diligence. He let me trail the whole time only giving clues from behind every once and a while. We now have each other's number and can communicate if something like this happens again. Upon reflection, I feel I should have ran down the deer in its dying state. As an ultramarathoner, and being weaponless, I'm sure I could have over taken it. I do not expect to forget this experience any time soon. I have learned more about shot placement and thinking of the exit (not just the entrance) and pray that I can be successful this year.
 
Sorry things did not work out better. For the future hunts may I recommend a few considerations & proactive preparations to Improve your chances of a quick recovery. Some of this only comes with time & experience.

In no particular order. Look in to stay sharp system for sharpening your BH with the full set of diamond plates & a strop or cardboard. 2nd learn from your mistake & allow the deer to progress closer for the shot angle you are really striving for. Consider a tracking dog & letting the deer be, for a longer duration b4 taking up the trail. Hind sight can be a good thing to apply to future opportunitys.
 
Sorry things did not work out better. For the future hunts may I recommend a few considerations & proactive preparations to Improve your chances of a quick recovery. Some of this only comes with time & experience.

In no particular order. Look in to stay sharp system for sharpening your BH with the full set of diamond plates & a strop or cardboard. 2nd learn from your mistake & allow the deer to progress closer for the shot angle you are really striving for. Consider a tracking dog & letting the deer be, for a longer duration b4 taking up the trail. Hind sight can be a good thing to apply to future opportunitys.

Thank you for the advice. I sharpen to a mirror finish using the Stay Sharp system for each of my broadheads.
I have a dog, but she was not allowed on the other property.
Waiting for a better shot angle is something I'll certainly look for and I'll wait longer.


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Sorry it didn’t end well for you. I probably would’ve done exactly what you did. You realized the most important thing, try to aim for the exit. If you don’t already know, dark blood is a meat or liver hit. Obviously bubbles are lung but it should be a frothy pinkish color. Your theory makes sense on the hit since you had dark with bubbles. In hindsight, if you went back the next day you would probably found her dead in that thicket. I lost my first deer in a similar situation. I quit hunting and it took me 25 years to get back on the horse. Don’t let it get to you.
 
Yeah, you did about all you could do except give it more time. Sometimes they get away. If you shoot enough deer it will happen, even with a rifle. I remember a doe I shot with a 257 Roberts at less than 50 yards one time early in my deer hunting career. She was perfectly broadside feeding on a food plot. I had a perfect rest, took my time and squeezed off the shot. The bullet was a 100 grain Nosler Partition, so I know it went through. I found a blood trail that looked like someone took a paintbrush and a pail of blood and just started painting the ground and bushes. Three of us looked for that doe for hours that evening and I came back the next morning and searched everywhere I knew to look. We never did find that deer. At that time, A friend told me he had the same thing happen to him with a 270. I just happens sometimes.
 
From one (relative) newbie to another, I also took off after my first doe too soon and bumped it, thankfully I had a lot of public land to follow and possibly got lucky when I lost the blood trail but then headed to the nearest water, found her piled up in the stream after not being able to make it up the opposite bank.

Keep at it, I like your style, both hunting and storytelling.
 
From one (relative) newbie to another, I also took off after my first doe too soon and bumped it, thankfully I had a lot of public land to follow and possibly got lucky when I lost the blood trail but then headed to the nearest water, found her piled up in the stream after not being able to make it up the opposite bank.

Keep at it, I like your style, both hunting and storytelling.

Thank you. I have much to learn. At first I thought it was a better shot than it was, but after four hours I thought it'd be a dead deer. What have you found, or seen others recommend concerning wait time for a liver shot?


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Thank you. I have much to learn. At first I thought it was a better shot than it was, but after four hours I thought it'd be a dead deer. What have you found, or seen others recommend concerning wait time for a liver shot?


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Lot of factors to consider & we are not likely to get it right every time & our odds of getting it right the first time is the worst odds to be up agents. Never the less, many first time archery hunters have great outcomes. Having good mentors can be a huge help.

As for liver hits, location, can make a big difference. One of my earlier deer The shot turned out to be a solid liver hit. Shot was from 12 yards from the ground on a spot & stalk situation on a really windy October afternoon in heavy cover. I seen the hit may have been back & went to look for the arrow right away. Arrow was stuck in a tree & covered in dark red blood. followed his trail for roughly 20 yards towards a thick slough bottom. I opted to back off for a couple hours go get a rope for dragging out the deer .
When I came back a couple hours later & took up the trail, the blood was sparse for roughly 120 yards. Where I spotted the expired deer lying down leaning up agents a small tree. I doubt he was dead for much over 15 minute.

Another deer that was a low liver hit with a large expandable, the trail was not taken up for nearly 12 hours. bumped that deer the following morning where he ran off in a very lethargic fashion for a few yards b4 going down exhausted in a short distance. Ended up putting a 2nd arrow in him to finish him off roughly 12 hours after the initial shot. After that I have been increasingly more selective on shot choices as the years progressed.

I now strive for shots inside of 20 yards & at least 100 yards from questionable property lines. Generally deer I shoot these days have been down inside of 80 yards, averaging closer to 50 yards.

Need to take things by a case by case scenario & strive to gather as much information as possible to make decisions for your next move. I error on the side of waiting longer if I do not see or hear the deer crash.
 
Sorry about this.

One lung hits really vary. If a deer is quartering towards but you really hit that lung well (hit about center lung) and the arrow also hits the diaphragm towards the middle and then the arrow exits while hitting liver and other organs, then you'll almost always recover it (i'm ballparking 90%) if you wait around 1 hour (but suspect the vast majority are done well within 30 minutes based upon track distance and their body position when found).

One lung hits with the arrow towards the back of lung should be treated like a gut shot, I think.

Also, it can be very difficult to tell exactly where you hit the animal and the angle. This is partly due to nerves at the shot. When I am more calm and the animal is around 20 yards away, then I can usually see the impact pretty well. I can't bring myself to shoot lighted nocks, but many people love them and they help.
 
Yeah, you did about all you could do except give it more time. Sometimes they get away. If you shoot enough deer it will happen, even with a rifle. I remember a doe I shot with a 257 Roberts at less than 50 yards one time early in my deer hunting career. She was perfectly broadside feeding on a food plot. I had a perfect rest, took my time and squeezed off the shot. The bullet was a 100 grain Nosler Partition, so I know it went through. I found a blood trail that looked like someone took a paintbrush and a pail of blood and just started painting the ground and bushes. Three of us looked for that doe for hours that evening and I came back the next morning and searched everywhere I knew to look. We never did find that deer. At that time, A friend told me he had the same thing happen to him with a 270. I just happens sometimes.
Wow! :oops: I've used Nosler Partitions for 40 years and have never had that happen.
 
Wow! :oops: I've used Nosler Partitions for 40 years and have never had that happen.
Yeah, me either. I've sent 30 caliber ones lengthwise through deer. They are the best of both worlds in my opinion. The front is soft and opens quickly and delivers a lot of shock and the back part keeps driving deep and exits. That incident didn't put me off Partitions, for sure. It just shows that where shooting deer with anything is concerned nothing is guaranteed.
 
I use the Federal Premium 165 Nosler Partition BT in my 7mm mag. and those rounds just plain anchor stuff. My family and I have taken several moose with that round and all have dropped within sight or on the spot. They work pretty darn good on deer too!
 
When I still gun hunted, my favorite was the Federal Premium 165 Nosler Partition in 30-06. I've had several deer go stiff legged and tip over from shoulder shots. The last buck I shot with it, a big bodied buck at about 70 yards quartering too, took off like a scalded cat upon receipt of the slug and ran flat out until he crashed about 90 yards away. The bullet entered on his right shoulder about half way up his body and exited the paunch on the off side. The whole thing lasted a few seconds.

I'd have no qualms about shooting an undisturbed cape buffalo in the crease of the shoulder with a 300 grain Partition from a 375 H&H if I had 300 grain solids in the magazine to back it up. The Partition is a great bullet.
 
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Liver hits vary greatly in how long it takes for the deer to die. There are large vessels in the liver, but if you miss them it may be 12hrs... Dark blood is the best sign for a liver hit. You have nothing to loose by waiting longer rather than taking up the trail too early. I learned the hard way too and lost a deer by not waiting. The next year I had another hit back and this time I marked where i saw the deer last mentally and my tree physically and snuck out. I came back only a couple of hrs later because rain was imminent and I found her only 100 yds from where I last saw her. She was stiff and had been dead a good while. That one also taught me not to shoot at walking deer.
When in doubt back out. It is easier said then done in the excitement though.
 
Thanks for sharing your story. I think I get way more out of the "unsuccessful" stories than those that are successful. The fact that you learned something from this experience makes it a success in my mind. Hard lessons stick the longest, right?

Good luck next season!
 
Thanks, for sharing. Two seasons ago i had a 140" 8 point i single lung shot at 15 yards. I was too high up and the shot was too high for the angle. massive blood trail for 200 yards to then stop. I backed out and waited 12 hours and called a dog and never found it. It sucks but happens and is part of hunting.
 
Reading this thread reminds me of what happened to my friend. He was hunting one afternoon. He said he had a buck walk out dropped him in his tracks. He waited for something else. ( we can tag either sex deer in the same day) As he’s waiting a big doe walks out. He levels off his gun squeezes the trigger. Direct hit on the doe. He said she takes off and sees the blood flowing. Heard her crash (so he thought). After dark he went looking followed the blood trail. Couldn’t find the doe. Went to the house quartered out the buck. Grabbing his boy and went back. He said they looked till midnight or so. Never found the doe. I was up visiting with him a couple days later. He showed me where everything happened. I walked up about 50 yards and there’s a carcass laying there. Giving him a holler he comes over has says “ we looked all around this area and this isn’t close to where I shot”. The more we walked around looking we could see hair dragged across the ground. Coyotes had dragged the doe back towards his stand as almost to say thanks for dinner.
 
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