Going back to flappers??

[weekender21]

It’s almost turkey season so YES! Big mechanicals are great turkey heads.

Actually I might stick with 150 grain Iron Will solid wide cut for thunder chickens this spring.


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[boyne bowhunter]

It’s almost turkey season so YES! Big mechanicals are great turkey heads.

Actually I might stick with 150 grain Iron Will solid wide cut for thunder chickens this spring.


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I use the big cutting mechanicals for turkeys too. Penetration isn't a issue, big hole and actually having a better chance of hitting the smaller vitals is my reason.

 

[weekender21]

I use the big cutting mechanicals for turkeys too. Penetration isn't a issue, big hole and actually having a better chance of hitting the smaller vitals is my reason.

I’ve killed quite a few with both mechanical and fixed blades. Inside ten yards over a decoy I don’t really have a preference but if you’re planning to shoot further a big mechanical is a wise choice.


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[Rg176bnc]

I've lost a few mechanicals on pass thrus, I'd lose my lunch if that was an Ironwill.

I've killed several hundred deer with mechanicals and never had a failure to open. Where they lack is sharpness for the most part. I've become comfortable with the straight down shot just not with a mechanical.

I typically buy something I'm getting a deal on so I bounce around to some fixed as well. If there's an issue its almost always user induced either way.

I've been messing around with a heavier arrow setup and I'm pretty sure I can get the same poi out of one with a little tinkering at 20 and under to keep in the quiver for some ground calling setups where a quartering to or frontal maybe more probable.

 

[Nutterbuster]

I've killed several hundred deer

Stop the train. This is way more interesting than the rest of the thread.

Warren Womack is at something like 382 kills over 50 seasons I believe. That'a 7 deer a year or better for decades. My friends know well that I am bad about knowing everything, but when he talks I listen because you don't get to learn from a hunter of that caliber very often at all. That guy has a hunting club's worth of experience killing deer. I've hit 5 or more each year for the past 4 years or so, and 10 and 11 the past two, and it's honestly a little exhausting.

I don't wanna hijack this thread, but would you be willing to start a new thread talking about how you hit that 300+ mark? That's way more interesting to me than the usual noise about new gear and yet another way to climb a tree. I am very interested in knowing what drives folks to kill that way, the circumstances (work, family, land access, ect) that allow it, and the knowledge they accumulate killing so regularly and methodically.

 

[Jtaylor]

Stop the train. This is way more interesting than the rest of the thread.

Warren Womack is at something like 382 kills over 50 seasons I believe. That'a 7 deer a year or better for decades. My friends know well that I am bad about knowing everything, but when he talks I listen because you don't get to learn from a hunter of that caliber very often at all. That guy has a hunting club's worth of experience killing deer. I've hit 5 or more each year for the past 4 years or so, and 10 and 11 the past two, and it's honestly a little exhausting.

I don't wanna hijack this thread, but would you be willing to start a new thread talking about how you hit that 300+ mark? That's way more interesting to me than the usual noise about new gear and yet another way to climb a tree. I am very interested in knowing what drives folks to kill that way, the circumstances (work, family, land access, ect) that allow it, and the knowledge they accumulate killing so regularly and methodically.

I don't have any popcorn but there's still coffee in the pot. I'll grab a refill and get ready for the story.

 

[HunterBob]

Switched back to COC broadheads last year and don't plan on switching back. I put the same arrow and broadhead through three different deer last year, all pass throughs. All I've had to do is sharpen it and it's good to go again. Much better luck than I have had with mechanicals, so I think the cost is actually in favor of the COC heads.

Keep in mind you don't have to buy iron wills, there are plenty affordable options. I got six steel force heads from a guy on here for $50 and will be using them next season as well.

 

[dougell]

Mechanicals will kill deer consistently but they offer no advantages of a fixed head and several disadvantages.Mechanicals were conceived back in the days of strait fletch,TM hunter rests and a lack of knowledge about tuning a bow.That eventually morphed into the misguided marketing that if you throw and axe through a deer,you can expand your kill zone.

 

[Country]

I've just been killing deer with $2 Chinese knockoff rage heads. Cheap, effective, and counter to the trend. Just how I like it

Have you ever had issues with those not deploying, Nut? I bought those some years back and when I tested them, my blades didn't always deploy.

 

[Rg176bnc]

Stop the train. This is way more interesting than the rest of the thread.

Warren Womack is at something like 382 kills over 50 seasons I believe. That'a 7 deer a year or better for decades. My friends know well that I am bad about knowing everything, but when he talks I listen because you don't get to learn from a hunter of that caliber very often at all. That guy has a hunting club's worth of experience killing deer. I've hit 5 or more each year for the past 4 years or so, and 10 and 11 the past two, and it's honestly a little exhausting.

I don't wanna hijack this thread, but would you be willing to start a new thread talking about how you hit that 300+ mark? That's way more interesting to me than the usual noise about new gear and yet another way to climb a tree. I am very interested in knowing what drives folks to kill that way, the circumstances (work, family, land access, ect) that allow it, and the knowledge they accumulate killing so regularly and methodically.

I could probably do something like that.

I know for sure I'm no Mr. Womack yet. Im right at the 300 mark +/- no many. I quit counting and have been below double digits 3 of the last four years i believe. I was well into double digits for right at 2 decades though.

 

[Cotehex]

I was in the mushy middle before the ranch fairy/ Ashby craze of recent years. I'm shooting around 500 grains with a mechanical and it's working for me. I'm staying in the mushy middle or moderation I think is what the old timers called it.

 

[Patriot]

I've just been killing deer with $2 Chinese knockoff rage heads. Cheap, effective, and counter to the trend. Just how I like it

where do you get them NB? I have a small data set to work with bc I’ve only been hunting a few years but I have yet to be impressed by a fixed blade and I have yet to be disappointed by 3 different versions of rage. It’s a no brainer for me.

if and when I get screwed I’ll switch, until then it’s a rage in the cage for me.

a knockoff rage I can trust would be even better!

 

[Nutterbuster]

where do you get them NB? I have a small data set to work with bc I’ve only been hunting a few years but I have yet to be impressed by a fixed blade and I have yet to be disappointed by 3 different versions of rage. It’s a no brainer for me.

if and when I get screwed I’ll switch, until then it’s a rage in the cage for me.

a knockoff rage I can trust would be even better!

Ebay. Not sure the vendor. I think about 3-4 deer I killed last year got killed with one. They were like $2 a head. Given that probably half of my arrows end up lost or broken after they get shot in a hunting environment, that's a lot better than losing 10-20 bucks a pop.

 

[Rg176bnc]

I got some killzone knockoffs that were everybit as good as the name brand heads. Bout 2 bucks a head as well

 

[raisins]

I was in the mushy middle before the ranch fairy/ Ashby craze of recent years. I'm shooting around 500 grains with a mechanical and it's working for me. I'm staying in the mushy middle or moderation I think is what the old timers called it.

I just put together a new bow (have everything, but waiting on the bow still....so it is mentally put together anyways). My goal was to put it right in the middle of things, and I think because of that it will be my best deer bow yet.

 

[BuffaloBill]

where do you get them NB? I have a small data set to work with bc I’ve only been hunting a few years but I have yet to be impressed by a fixed blade and I have yet to be disappointed by 3 different versions of rage. It’s a no brainer for me.

if and when I get screwed I’ll switch, until then it’s a rage in the cage for me.

a knockoff rage I can trust would be even better!

Here's a listing but you can find several. Mine came a little dull but they sharpened pretty easily. Haven't put one through a deer yet but hoping to this season.

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[Bigfoot522]

The only reason I stopped using mechanical broadheads is to shoot longbows and recurves.

Otherwise I shot many different heads and they work great.

The only ones I don't like are the ones that pivot when open.
I shot a doe broadside and it nearly spine her coming out the top.

 

[7mmremmag]

I use 150 grain Wasp sharpshooters, mostly because I hunt elk every year and don't want to always swap my setup around. The heavy CoC's in my experience just slice right through a deer making hardly a noise. Nobody should complain about 'too much' penetration when trying to kill an animal either. Two holes bleed out faster than one.

 

[Fl Canopy Stalker]

But this isn't applied consistently by the Ranch Fairy Flavor Aid Fellows (RFFAF). If it was, then the first time they made a good shot but got a sparse blood trail and lost the deer then they would at least consider switching back. That this is heretical thinking leads me to believe that there is more at work than dispassionate logic. Be careful with ideas you really like or really hate because that's when you fool yourself.

Honestly I don’t care what people choose to shoot or who they listen to on you tube. I only know what I was shooting and why I switched to heavy builds with higher FOC (although I am not over 19%) and I love the durability of the single bevel heads. They are expensive and there is a good deal of work that has to be done to make sure they fly perfectly but once you have that arrow tuned right, it’s almost like magic. Needless to say in the past few seasons my longest “blood trail” was 40 yards. As long as I keep getting results like that, I think I’ll leave the mechanical blades and the Montec’s to someone else. Lol give me Grizzly stik and give me death (or something like that)

 

[debowhunter]

I've just been killing deer with $2 Chinese knockoff rage heads. Cheap, effective, and counter to the trend. Just how I like it

Last 60+ deer I have shot have been with the knockoff shwackers, before that I shot over a 100 with the knockoff rocket steelhead. Your right cheap and effective. I do take all the blades out and sharpen them myself though. Shoot 370 grain arrow with 57 lbs. of KE and blow through everything. If you find what works stick with it.