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help me decide deer rifle and caliber: 6.5 CrMo vs 270 Win and savage storm lightweight vs tikka t3x superlite

which rifle of the 4 below? details in post

  • savage lightweight storm in 270 Winchester (5.8 lbs, 20 inch barrel)

    Votes: 12 19.4%
  • savage lightweight storm in 6.5 Creedmoor (5.6 lbs, 20 inch barrel)

    Votes: 6 9.7%
  • Tikka T3X Superlite in 270 Winchester (6 lbs, 22 inch barrel)

    Votes: 21 33.9%
  • Tikka T3X Superlite in 6.5 Creedmoor (6 lbs, 24 inch barrel)

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Total voters
    62
Anyone play with the Bergara Premier Mountain 2.0?
I had a Bergara HMR recently, it was nice but down the road it went, the trigger was crap, the finish was ok, it was a nice rifle but I didn’t see any reason to keep it, I installed a jewell trigger on mine, I kept the Jewell and off it went, I had the only lefty HMR in 22-250 when it hit gunbroker and I did well lol.
 
Don't forget to vote please. We've got more commenters than voters....which is fine.....but would like to see some numbers if possible.
 
I had a Bergara HMR recently, it was nice but down the road it went, the trigger was crap, the finish was ok, it was a nice rifle but I didn’t see any reason to keep it, I installed a jewell trigger on mine, I kept the Jewell and off it went, I had the only lefty HMR in 22-250 when it hit gunbroker and I did well lol.

The Premier Series upgrades to a TriggerTech trigger assembly.

They have good barrels. I was mostly curious about them with no intention of buying one.

At that price point, I'd have more fun building an even more expensive rifle, lol.
 
270 In the Savage is a no brainer for me.


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The Premier Series upgrades to a TriggerTech trigger assembly.

They have good barrels. I was mostly curious about them with no intention of buying one.

At that price point, I'd have more fun building an even more expensive rifle, lol.
Trigger Tech makes a very good trigger, I’m a lefty and the HMR was the only thing available I believe, Christensen Arms come standard with Trigger Tech Primary triggers and I am so impressed with them they will be on my next rifles moving forward. I never finished the break in period on my HMR so I can’t comment on the barrel, I will say the initial results were less than flattering, they have a reputation of being super accurate though.
 
I was having the same debate with myself the past week or so, my buddy and his brother along with his uncles and dad are big time deer hunters, they broke it down like this, they all are good deer rounds, but 270 takes the cake bc its the best all around, flat shooting, doesnt tear up the meat as bad as bigger calibers. For someone who since young with my dad 308 was always the round of choice but they convinced me 270 is the way to go hence the purchase of my rem700 in 270. I took their words with some weight as they are a family of very avid deer and hog hunters who primarily use rifles.
 
following. I'm planning to get a new rifle for 23
 
following. I'm planning to get a new rifle for 23
Same. My uncle (one of those 50+ guns and a always pick the bigger hammer kinda guys) reccomended a 30-06 as a good first/all around gun, but to be honest there's so many options I'm just trying to read as many threads like this as I can. 270 being lighter and flatter sounds good to me
 
Same. My uncle (one of those 50+ guns kinda guys) reccomended a 30-06 as a good first/all around gun, but to be honest there's so many options I'm just trying to read as many threads like this as I can

If elk is on the menu for the rifle, then I'd consider 30-06 as a do it all chambering

I just like to shoot rifles that don't kick as hard and shoot them better

edit: If I hadn't watched my Dad's 25-06 fail twice on deer in 2 years, I'd probably be considering a 243 as well
 
yep, would like to get into it as soon as primers are more readily available
We are splitting hairs on caliber at this point, everything talked about here so far is an excellent choice, all will perform above your expectations, but like I said if I were to pick one it would be a .308, if nothing else take a look at component availability right now, even during these nonsense times we live in I could have a person up and reloading .308 in no time, it’s super easy to load for, the bullet selection is endless, brass everywhere, the ballistic coefficient advantage of the 6.5 man bun is nothing you will ever utilize, 99% of the people that own them don’t know why, take a look around for .308 bullets versus 6.5 stuff and let me know what you think, some Varget powder, a single stage press, dies, a box of Lapua brass and the next time an ammo shortage happens you can laugh like I have been doing through all of this, yes I left stuff out from the above list but you get the idea, primers can be had now it’s just were not willing to pay scalper prices, they will be back eventually and guess what they don’t take up much storage room, you will make a good reloader I can tell, a person that pays attention to details.
 
If elk is on the menu for the rifle, then I'd consider 30-06 as a do it all chambering

I just like to shoot rifles that don't kick as hard and shoot them better
Lol I was just editing that post to say the same but you caught me in the middle. He is more of an elk hunter and it was more of an AK/Western elk/caribou/blacktail/bear discussion than MD whitetail. My first Maryland gun will likely be a 350 legend since this is a straight wall state (mostly)
 
that was me with the 25-06.....shooting deer at 30-30 lever distance usually but with a bean field rifle
One of the best rifles my dad ever owned was a weatherby 25-06. It was a shooter.
 
What a great thread, I haven’t had new rifle fever in a couple months…. I’m tagged out… it’s pouring rain outside…and now I’m scouring Gunbroker like a crack head looking for his next fix… my finger almost twitched enough a couple times to get myself in trouble.. My next rifle will be a Christensen Arms FFT in .308, Mesa or Ridgeline, I have no justification I just want one and if wasn’t Christmas time a tracking number would be in my inbox as we speak lmao.
 
What a great thread, I haven’t had new rifle fever in a couple months…. I’m tagged out… it’s pouring rain outside…and now I’m scouring Gunbroker like a crack head looking for his next fix… my finger almost twitched enough a couple times to get myself in trouble.. My next rifle will be a Christensen Arms FFT in .308, Mesa or Ridgeline, I have no justification I just want one and if wasn’t Christmas time a tracking number would be in my inbox as we speak lmao.

how would rank a christensen mesa in comparison to the barrett you mentioned previously? price of the 2 is somewhat similar
 
Trigger Tech makes a very good trigger, I’m a lefty and the HMR was the only thing available I believe, Christensen Arms come standard with Trigger Tech Primary triggers and I am so impressed with them they will be on my next rifles moving forward. I never finished the break in period on my HMR so I can’t comment on the barrel, I will say the initial results were less than flattering, they have a reputation of being super accurate though.

Yep, that's the same trigger the Bergara Premier 2.0 uses.

I'd love to hear about your break in process. You shoot a lot and I'm sure have it down. I've read a fair bit on the topic and it's interesting that there are a few wildly different approaches by experts in long range shooting and riflemaking. Would be a good thread to start (or continue if it already exists).
 
I would go with the Tikka T3x Lite. I have one in .308 and got my first buck this year in Western Wisconsin. Love its light weight and overall performance.
 
how would rank a christensen mesa in comparison to the barrett you mentioned previously? price of the 2 is somewhat similar
I have never held a Fieldcraft, I would think the build quality would be better than a Christensen, off reputation alone, I’m not sure you can even find a Filedcraft anymore, every time I found one @TK161BOONER brother was on top it, no joke, they both have them, I have the Forbes Rifle, another mass produced copy of Melvins NULA rifle, Melvin produced the finest lightweight mountain rifles ever known to man imo, I’m sure some would disagree but he was ahead of his time and I owned a couple and they all were shooters. Melvin Forbes first run was ULA rifles, full custom, then he he tried to mass produce them at an affordable price through another company, those were called the Colt Light Rifle, it didn’t work, QC problems and whatever ended the deal, so then Melvin started back up under NULA, New Ultra Light Arms, once again full custom big $$$, once again an attempt was made to mass produce his rifle, it was called the Forbes rifle, made at a different facility to meet a cheaper price point, and like earlier it failed, QC problems and whatever else, so back to NULA for one at a time full customs big $$, somehow after all the attempts at mass producing his one of a kind rifles Barrett got involved and the Fieldcraft was born, another clone… this time it worked, and for whatever reason Barrett pulled the plug on the Fieldcraft, some say military contracts.. who knows… but like everything that is good but no longer made the price went ballistic and good luck even finding one, no joke.. and just this spring Melvin sold NULA to Wilson Combat for good, so it’s over, I have no idea what Wilson Combat will do, maybe they are making them again I have no idea, everything written above could be off a bit but you get the idea of what transpired, his shop is still open I called the other day, they service rifles already produced and in customers hands. Every rifle made that was a clone of the original NULA customs, all the copies, if there was any problem Melvin took care of it at his shop, I sent mine in for some work right after I bought it, simple stuff LOP change and new paint. The Fieldcraft would be looked at by Barrett would be my assumption, if by chance there was an issue. When those clones were being dumped for cheap prices people were gobbling them up and sending them back to his shop for the full treatment and getting almost full custom rifles back at a cheaper price, I owned both, a Forbes and the real deal NULA rifle, I honestly couldn’t tell much of a difference. I have a Christensen Arms here for my son, Mesa, it’s nice, I haven’t messed with it much, the internet is full of horror stories about Christensen Arms, I don’t know what to tell you on that ours is nice, my buddy bought the new FFT model in a Ridgeline, 7/08, he loves it. Basically with any of these premium off the shelf rifles your getting a semi custom gun at a mass produced price. What makes a full custom better? Well the action will be smooth, it mite shoot 1/2” groups versus 1”, maybe… the fit and finish should be better, maybe…. I say all of this because I’ve owned all of this stuff and to make it real simple probably none of it is worth it, snob appeal is why most folks have $5k rifles, a $300 Savage Axis still kills deer dead, like everything deciding what is most important to you is what matters most, in my opinion I try to find a happy medium, I like nice stuff but realize all the fluff of a full custom super expensive rig doesn’t appeal to me, a nice semi custom or premium ready to go rifle is what I like. Remington 700 rifles made in the late 90’s and before are about as slick as it gets, the actions are smooth. I never paid retail on any of the full customs I owned, all were screaming deals or I wouldn’t have bought them, most went down the road, I’m a lefty and hunt the internet auction sites like a beast, deals can be had trust me. It all depends on what you want, there is no end to this stuff, I’ve been chasing it my whole life, for a lightweight, ready to go mountain rifle IMO the Fieldcraft would be hard to beat, but they are gone… if you find one buy it.. next up would be the Christensen Arms FFT, that’s my opinion, for a premium, off the shelf lightweight mountain rifle in that sub $1,500 price, people are going to scream Tikka, I understand, they shoot and are affordable, talk to any serious gun nut and ask how many Tikka’s they own, buying a long action with some stupid blocker thingy to make it a short action is non starter for me, I hate lots of plastic on my rifles in places metal should be… Just my opinion.. I’m glad everybody likes their Tikka’s so don’t hammer me too bad lol.
 
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