I love this but this would require me to carry a pack. Im to lazy for a pack. LolThis is not the most compact pad but it is amazing on the tree. The longer you sit, the more comfortable it gets. Your knees burrow into the center creating a dam on the outside, which keeps yours knees from trying to spread around the tree. I hang it on the tail of my hys strap with a small biner. When I walk in, I clip it to my backpack strap and it hangs under my arm. Really comfy. I can sit for hours and never move.View attachment 69253