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I almost got stuck in the tree this weekend. Beware!

PJC said:
What’s the purpose of the micro pulley? Is it like a tender that allows you to make one hand assent by pulling up on the tag end of the rope causing it to push the schwabish up the rope?


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The micro pulley is used for DRT where you use a long rope and double it up. A 75' rope, I can get almost 35' up the tree...the rope goes over the branch and down to me. I then do a figure 8 on the left side of the rope with a stopper knot...then on the right side of the rope I then put my schwabish friction hitch on and hook it to my carabiner on my figure 8 that is now attached to my bridge. I then put a non-climbing prussic on the left side of the rope just above my schwabish with a non-climbing carabiner...put my micro pulley on the right side of the rope but beneath my schwabish and hook my non-climbing carabiner. Load the schwabish so that it grabs and pull the right side of the rope as I thrust my hips up the tree. The thrust and pull combination is what pulls my schwabish up with my pulley helping it.


 
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PJC said:
What length of 8mm rope with split tail(does that mean a loop on each end?) do you need to tie a schwabish or distal hitch?


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I like to have a 28" split tail and yes...a split tail is a length of rope with two loops at the end of each rope.
 
New to the site and only saddle hunted a few times. But I always keep a few screw in steps in my badlands pack Incase I want to get a little higher or Incase of a situation like that
 
I am using a Lone Wolf hand climber as a platform. I was out in the back yard yesterday, trying some different things, since I am new to saddle hunting. Usually I have a line running from the climber to the tether just in case the climber slips I can retrieve it but I didn't tie the line on yesterday. I was only 6 feet off the ground and I kicked the climber and it slid to the bottom of the tree. I sat there trying to think of what to do and after a couple minutes I decided to bear hug the tree to get slack in the tether and I did get enough slack to loosen the ropeman 1 and get myself to the ground. After doing that I knew I had an option for getting down the tree. For me it wouldn't be problem to do this all the way down the tree from 20 feet but I'm sure it would take some time and maybe some scrapes on the way down but I now know I do have that option.
 
Funny you say this because yesterday I was up 15 feet. Newer to saddle myself, I put foot pressure on the arms of the lone wolf climber and it released from grip and fell. I did have it attached to my crotch straps of the tethrd mantis but it was 6 feet below me. Surprisingly I had trouble pulling up bc the cable teeth kept biting when I tugged on the safety rope (attached at seat where my heels had been). I have a wingman safety device and was about to use it but managed to jiggle the seat up. Spooky bc when u really hang it starts to hurt. My error, and maybe this helps you, is that I usually screw in cranford screw step BELOW the cable of the climber so as a back up, if it starts to drop, it catches on the screw step and doesn’t need to rely on the safety rope. Anyway, I like redundancy: cranford, safety line, and wingman device. I was alone and woulda been wife trying to drag another climber out and climb to me. I wonder if there’s a better way to tie the safety line on so when tugged it pulls up seat better. Thx for sharing.
 
One of things I added to my pack this year was a single squirrel step on an OCB. It weighs practically nothing and packs up not much bigger than a deck of cards. The primary reason I added it was so that I could add one more step on my setup to get around the tree if I'm on a bigger tree. However, as with most of the gear I select for my pack, it can serve double duty as a self rescue. If I need to I can single step down the tree using it.
 
Rmurraymd said:
Funny you say this because yesterday I was up 15 feet. Newer to saddle myself, I put foot pressure on the arms of the lone wolf climber and it released from grip and fell. I did have it attached to my crotch straps of the tethrd mantis but it was 6 feet below me. Surprisingly I had trouble pulling up bc the cable teeth kept biting when I tugged on the safety rope (attached at seat where my heels had been). I have a wingman safety device and was about to use it but managed to jiggle the seat up. Spooky bc when u really hang it starts to hurt. My error, and maybe this helps you, is that I usually screw in cranford screw step BELOW the cable of the climber so as a back up, if it starts to drop, it catches on the screw step and doesn’t need to rely on the safety rope. Anyway, I like redundancy: cranford, safety line, and wingman device. I was alone and woulda been wife trying to drag another climber out and climb to me. I wonder if there’s a better way to tie the safety line on so when tugged it pulls up seat better. Thx for sharing.
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Hi can you start another thread in the wingman? I’d like to know more from a user.
Thanks


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Rmurraymd said:
Funny you say this because yesterday I was up 15 feet. Newer to saddle myself, I put foot pressure on the arms of the lone wolf climber and it released from grip and fell. I did have it attached to my crotch straps of the tethrd mantis but it was 6 feet below me. Surprisingly I had trouble pulling up bc the cable teeth kept biting when I tugged on the safety rope (attached at seat where my heels had been). I have a wingman safety device and was about to use it but managed to jiggle the seat up. Spooky bc when u really hang it starts to hurt. My error, and maybe this helps you, is that I usually screw in cranford screw step BELOW the cable of the climber so as a back up, if it starts to drop, it catches on the screw step and doesn’t need to rely on the safety rope. Anyway, I like redundancy: cranford, safety line, and wingman device. I was alone and woulda been wife trying to drag another climber out and climb to me. I wonder if there’s a better way to tie the safety line on so when tugged it pulls up seat better. Thx for sharing.
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I don't know what a wingman device is? I know what you are talking about as far as hurting while you are sitting there after a couple minutes, kind of gets you in the " I have to do something now !" mode. I am looking at tying the safety line to some type of small paracord harness attached to the climber so the climber can be retrieved evenly back up the tree. I really don't know if this would work, more lines to be stepping on, or getting caught on other things. Just an idea I am going to try out.
 
A wingman is a rappel device that will loser you slowly to the ground. It has about 30 feet of webbing that is sweet. I sold mine cause I switched to the saddle. I only used it for stand hunting, but i guess you can use it for saddle hunting too.


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My top step is always level or slightly above platform and 90-120 degrees left of platform. Helps walk around tree to get shots or help in situation like that.
 
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