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If you were a deer, what is the LAST state you would want to live in

BackSpasm

BackSpasm

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I’ll go first:

There is no chance on earth you would find me living in Alabama. There are too many hungry Nutters and others (you know who you are) down there who would want to eat me, the season is so dang long basically until turkey season, and you can shoot like 1 million bucks a year.....
 
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Michigan because everything with 4 legs and hooves doesn’t make it more than a year or two. Next would be Iowa because people vacation there for the sole purpose of killing you.

Where I would most want to live might be Hawaii. Don’t hear of many people deer hunting there. Hah. Although volcanos and tsunamis might be a problem.


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BackSpasm said:
I’ll go first:

There is no chance on earth you would find me living in Alabama. There are too many hungry Nutters and other down there who would want to eat me, the season is so dang long basically until turkey season, and you can shoot like 1 million bucks a year.....
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That and there are too many dang outlaws down here, oh wait that’s what you said.
 
Westdesign03 said:
Michigan because everything with 4 legs and hooves doesn’t make it more than a year or two. Next would be Iowa because people vacation there for the sole purpose of killing you.

Where I would most want to live might be Hawaii. Don’t hear of many people deer hunting there. Hah. Although volcanos and tsunamis might be a problem.


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Hmm.... can’t believe I didn’t consider tsunamis lol
 
Apex7 said:
Pennsylvania is the last place for me . To many hunters for me if I were a deer. By the way what are you drinking that made you think of a question like that . Just wondering if you had any for me. lol
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Hahahah actually one of my Alabama buddies sent me a pic of him hunting and I was filled with anger and jealousy...then I thought man... sucks to be a deer in bama....
 
We have to talk poaching pressure. West Virginia has poaching pressure like no other. I've not seen a study on it, but I'd be curious. I've had many rural strangers talk vaguely or directly about poaching with me (and I look like potential LEO (clean cut, pretty serious unless I'm cutting up with you guys/etc.) but maybe they know the difference).
 
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We have to talk poaching pressure. West Virginia has poaching pressure like no other. I've not seen a study on it, but I'd be curious. I've had many rural strangers talk vaguely or directly about poaching with me (and I look like potential LEO (clean cut, pretty serious unless I'm cutting up with you guys, etc.) but maybe they know the difference).
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I wonder if there is a published info on poaching pressure somewhere? I know we have a few hot spots in Tennessee
 
BackSpasm said:
I wonder if there is a published info on poaching pressure somewhere? I know we have a few hot spots in Tennessee
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I'd have to start looking it up, but I think we can both guess at what makes it more common.
 
Michigan then PA. I’m a PA guy. It’s maybe arguable but I’d probably say Michigan has the most most hunting pressure with a close second in PA.
 
Flee said:
Michigan then PA. I’m a PA guy. It’s maybe arguable but I’d probably say Michigan has the most most hunting pressure with a close second in PA.
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I’ve hunted PA and MI public...believe it or not hunters there were sparse compared to TX public. SHNF can be downright scary for any sane human, I can’t imagine how the deer feel there.
 
Ok fellas I did a little poking around and found these harvest stats for 2017

www.archerytrade.org

State-by-State Hunting Data - ATA

www.archerytrade.org www.archerytrade.org


According to this if you look at number of deer killed/ number of licenses sold here is how we stack up for that year:

Michigan: 0.65 deer killed per hunter (DKPH)
574,000 hunters
96,716 mi squared
6 hunters per square mile

Mississippi: 0.65 DKPH
300,000 hunters
48,430 mi squared
6 hunters per square mile

Pennsylvania: 0.38 DKPH
976,000 hunters
46,055 mi squared
21 hunters per square mile

Alabama: 0.15 DKPH
548,000 hunters
52,419 mi squared
10 hunters per square mile


I didn't see South Carolina total license sales, but they report a 69%-70% success rate per license holder.

I am sure there is more and better data available like that found in the annual QDMA report or on each states websites, but this was a quick and dirty look at pressure. The big factor we are missing here is deer density and deer herd size.
 
Doesn't matter, as long as I am in a national park with no hunting. Or other protected area. Few deer live a long time on public or high hunted areas. But I would be a deer and wouldn't know the difference. So California I guess. They have laws to save everyone from everything. Might go thirsty. But won't be shot. Except by possibly stray bullets from gang violence.
 
Statistics tell us some things but not everything, as noted. For example the King Ranch in TX is bigger than RI, and once was the size of DE. That’ll screw the numbers.

If you could be a mid sized typical there you might live a long life. My understanding is they mostly shoot bigger bucks or culls and does. But that’s just hearsay.
 
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