In need of a little advice.

[Ditchdiver]

Hello, all.
I just picked up a Slick Stick and need arrows and broadheads. Here are the stats-
Bow - 40# @28"
My draw length - 27" ( so, 37.5# draw weight? )
I'm thinking I want 500 spine arrows @ 30" with about 200 grains up front (total). For broadheads I am REALLY liking the looks of Simmons Safari (205 grain).
Do you think I'm on the right track? Any advice/suggestions are very appreciated.

 

[Crcusmonky]

I found the spine calculator from 3 rivers to be really helpful in getting you close to what you need. You can adjust the different parameters until the numbers are close. This at least puts you in the ball park.

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[BowhunterXC]

Try shooting a 500 spine bare shaft with a 150, 175 and 200 grain tip weights, until you see perfect arrow flight at 10, 15 and 20 yards. Which ever tip weight flies the best is what you should use. Fletch your arrows after the bare shaft flight test. Using a 30" arrow length may show different results and a lighter tip weight, than you want, may come into play.

I suggest a 29" shaft length. A shorter arrow will be stiffer in spine and penetrate better.

I shoot a 45# ILF recurve with a 500 spine Gold Tip shaft that is 29" with a 150 gr. tip weight....and I also have a 27" DL. Bare shafts fly perfect at 20 yards. I try to build an arrow from the tip back. I chose a 150 gr. tip weight for the popularity of 150 gr. broadheads. Broadhead selection can be difficult at 250 gr. and higher.

 

[BTaylor]

Hello, all.
I just picked up a Slick Stick and need arrows and broadheads. Here are the stats-
Bow - 40# @28"
My draw length - 27" ( so, 37.5# draw weight? )
I'm thinking I want 500 spine arrows @ 30" with about 200 grains up front (total). For broadheads I am REALLY liking the looks of Simmons Safari (205 grain).
Do you think I'm on the right track? Any advice/suggestions are very appreciated.

Are you new to trad bows or just got a new bow?

 

[Ditchdiver]

I'm fairly new. Have one other bow that I was shooting around with last year, but it was to heavy of a bow for a beginner (55#). That's why I went with a 40# bow.

 

[GCTerpfan]

With your draw length I’d bet the 500 spines will be too stiff. Id try to get a test shaft in 500, 600 and 700 spine.

 

[Ditchdiver]

Do you think they would be to stiff with 200 grains up front? If so, how much weight do you think I would need?

 

[GCTerpfan]

Do you think they would be to stiff with 200 grains up front? If so, how much weight do you think I would need?

A lot, I don’t have a ton of experience tuning bows at those specs as my draw length is a lot longer and most of my bows have been 45+lbs but my dad has several recurves in the low 40’s, all cut to center and with his 28” draw he’s usually shooting a 600 spine with 200+ grains up front and can even get 700’s to tune out of some of them.

 

[Jtaylor]

I shoot these out of a 40# Black Hunter and they fly nice and penetrate well. I draw ~27". They're Gold Tip traditional 600s. I tuned them to the 175gr swamp sharks. I can shoot +/- a few grains with no I'll effects at 20yds and in shots. I limit my shots to 20 yds and prefer closer. I'm touching my back of my index finger to the back of the broadhead at full draw. I can use a 50gr screw in adapter and open up possibilities for 125gr broadheads if I want a smaller profile broadhead for better penetration. Total arrow weight is around 440gr. and are 27 5/8" long carbon to carbon.
Bows vary, but maybe this can give you a general idea where to start.

 

[Fgirtyman]

I shoot these out of a 40# Black Hunter and they fly nice and penetrate well. I draw ~27". They're Gold Tip traditional 600s. I tuned them to the 175gr swamp sharks. I can shoot +/- a few grains with no I'll effects at 20yds and in shots. I limit my shots to 20 yds and prefer closer. I'm touching my back of my index finger to the back of the broadhead at full draw. I can use a 50gr screw in adapter and open up possibilities for 125gr broadheads if I want a smaller profile broadhead for better penetration. Total arrow weight is around 440gr. and are 27 5/8" long carbon to carbon.
Bows vary, but maybe this can give you a general idea where to start.
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I think I have about your same setup minus that bow. I had to add weight behind non lighted nocks of the practice arrows to match the weight of the lighted nocks used for hunting. I usually do that by adding some small tungsten beads. Kinda weird but works for me. Looks like you got it figured out.

 

[Ditchdiver]

I shoot these out of a 40# Black Hunter and they fly nice and penetrate well. I draw ~27". They're Gold Tip traditional 600s. I tuned them to the 175gr swamp sharks. I can shoot +/- a few grains with no I'll effects at 20yds and in shots. I limit my shots to 20 yds and prefer closer. I'm touching my back of my index finger to the back of the broadhead at full draw. I can use a 50gr screw in adapter and open up possibilities for 125gr broadheads if I want a smaller profile broadhead for better penetration. Total arrow weight is around 440gr. and are 27 5/8" long carbon to carbon.
Bows vary, but maybe this can give you a general idea where to start.
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Thank you VERY much! This is the kind of help I was looking for. I know everyone/every bow is different, but, what do you think I would need to do to get up towards the 200 grain tip weight?

 

[GCTerpfan]

Thank you VERY much! This is the kind of help I was looking for. I know everyone/every bow is different, but, what do you think I would need to do to get up towards the 200 grain tip weight?

I know you asked @Jtaylor but, you might not have to do anything. Depending on your form/release/center cut of your bow/and whether you are shooting off the shelf or an elevated rest you may need more weight and/or a longer arrow then @Jtaylor even thought you have the same draw length and are shooting the same poundage. The only way to answer this question is to get at least one 600 spine arrow and start the tuning process. You'll find different arrow brands will give you slightly different results also.

 

[BTaylor]

Thank you VERY much! This is the kind of help I was looking for. I know everyone/every bow is different, but, what do you think I would need to do to get up towards the 200 grain tip weight?

Not in my specs tuning wise either but just guessing here. If you have 500 spine shafts, I would leave them full length and start with a 75 grain insert paired with a 200 grain head. Depending on how those fly, you could switch to 50 grain inserts or bump up to 100 grain inserts. I dont think I would cut a 500 though for that bow setup. The 600's will likely be easier to tune up and @Jtaylor already got you in the ball park.

 

[GCTerpfan]

Not in my specs tuning wise either but just guessing here. If you have 500 spine shafts, I would leave them full length and start with a 75 grain insert paired with a 200 grain head. Depending on how those fly, you could switch to 50 grain inserts or bump up to 100 grain inserts. I dont think I would cut a 500 though for that bow setup. The 600's will likely be easier to tune up and @Jtaylor already got you in the ball park.

You're pretty close. I realized after my first post that my 15 year old son shoots 39# @ his 29" draw. I have him shooting GT trads w/ 100 gr inserts and 200 gr points and although we've never bareshaft or broadhead tuned anything for him (he doesn't shoot consistently enough yet to even try) his fletched shafts fly pretty good.

Edit: I meant 500 spine GT trads

 

[Bigfoot522]

When you find your proper shaft with a 200 grain field point, I certify the safaris will match flight and impact!
They are deadly. Some of my most used heads.
I prefer their shape over the sharks types.

 

[KYhunter66]

Hello, all.
I just picked up a Slick Stick and need arrows and broadheads. Here are the stats-
Bow - 40# @28"
My draw length - 27" ( so, 37.5# draw weight? )
I'm thinking I want 500 spine arrows @ 30" with about 200 grains up front (total). For broadheads I am REALLY liking the looks of Simmons Safari (205 grain).
Do you think I'm on the right track? Any advice/suggestions are very appreciated.

Just to show how weird arrow setup can become. I just sold my slick stick longbow. I was using 55lb@28 bow at my drawl length of 24.5 I was 41lbs.My arrows are 28inches 500 traditional only cut to 28 with 200gr SS inserts 125gr broadheads total arrow weight 580 and they bare shaft tuned perfect!!

 

[KYhunter66]

Just to show how weird arrow setup can become. I just sold my slick stick longbow. I was using 55lb@28 bow at my drawl length of 24.5 I was 41lbs.My arrows are 28inches 500 traditional only cut to 28 with 200gr SS inserts 125gr broadheads total arrow weight 580 and they bare shaft tuned perfect!! View attachment 114561View attachment 114562

And they did the job!

 

[KYhunter66]

I'm gonna be setting up my new Hilljack ASL bows soon! and I will probably start with three rivers test kit that's what I would recommend.

 

[KYhunter66]

I know this is a little different with ASL not center cut but it shows how just holding the bow different changed the arrow spine. https://sunsethilllongbowsandleathe.../hill-style-shooting-form-and-bow-design.html

 

[katiesmom]

I have a 45#@28 slick stick. My DL is 25. My setup is GT trad 500 cut to 28 inches. Three 4 inch left feather fletching with a wrap. 200 grain single bevel cutthroat left bevel with 100 gr insert.
For me it shoots darts.