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Is there a major advantage in having seperate lineman's loops and bridges?

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Good day,

I'm looking at different designs from top makers and the DIYers, it seem like the general designs have a lineman's loop attachment point and a bridges attachment point. Very new to the game, can anyone explain why not just have one seaction to attach for both? Why cant I hook the bridge to the same loop to the one dedicated to linemans?

One of the principle that I hear alot about is having a 'system' that you perfect and repeat every time you climb. That you have one lineman rope is a pouch that you always know where it is, another tether rope in another pouch. I understand having 2 ropes because its safer, but if you are trying to be minimalist, why not use one attachment point system? For that matter.....I have an extra lineman ropes that I use to get around branches, why cant I use either one as a bridge?

I have not been in a production model saddle so maybe some aspect elluded me, right now i'm a sit-drag/RCH guy and I connect my lineman's in the same loop as the one I tethered to the tree. Can anyone please enlighten me before I start building my own saddle? Thank you and good hunting.

P.S.
I may also be referring to "connection points" the section of the saddle that you attach the ropes. Why do you need 2 seperates area instead of one primary point.
 
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If you are gonna keep your lineman rope attached to one lineman loop and rolled up to always stay on your saddle, I can see the need to 2 separate loops; bridge loops and designated lineman loops. But if you are gonna take your lineman belt off of your saddle and store elsewhere while you hunt, all you need is bridge loops on a saddle. Personal preference.
 
I asked the same question last year.
I kinda think that one set of loops may actually be more safe than 2 sets of loops.
My reasoning for that is with one set, they should be easier to find when under weight. When switching from tether to lineman, just follow the bridge with your hand to a single loop that is managed and controlled because your bridge (which is under weight) is right there. No feeling around for loose, floppy lineman loop.
Disclosure...I have not experimented with this. My thoughts are just an intuition on the concept. Am I missing something?
Test for yourself and be safe, don't take chances.
 
Following. I use my bridge on my AH Flex as a secondary linemans rope when going around a limb sometimes. It feels ok but I've been wondering if I was missing something or if this is a terrible idea.
 
All saddles are different. I think i built mine as a clone of a mantis...or a kestrel. I cant remember. But for me lineman vs bridge apply force differently. My linemans loops are on the waist band so they place load on my lower back as i lean away from the tree, which is what i want while climbing and hanging a set. My bridge connection places all the load on my butt, which i want for sitting and standing on stand. Could you use one set of connection points for dual duty? Probably. But it would not be ideal for my saddle. You would have to just use the brdige connection. Linemans only connection wouldnt let you sit.

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I like having 2 separate loops....my tether and linesman are identical and in the dark after 2-3 days of hunting I could easily confused the 2. I know how screwy it can get when going around limbs (especially multiple limbs in a row working 2 different ropes....I added reflective webbing to my linesman loops to differentiate between the bridge and linesman loops visually differentiating between the 2
 
I only have bridge loops which I use for lineman's attachment. I don't see why anyone would worry about having two sets of loops.
 
All saddles are different. I think i built mine as a clone of a mantis...or a kestrel. I cant remember. But for me lineman vs bridge apply force differently. My linemans loops are on the waist band so they place load on my lower back as i lean away from the tree, which is what i want while climbing and hanging a set. My bridge connection places all the load on my butt, which i want for sitting and standing on stand. Could you use one set of connection points for dual duty? Probably. But it would not be ideal for my saddle. You would have to just use the brdige connection. Linemans only connection wouldnt let you sit

Exactly. A flipline is easier and more comfortable to use from a higher point on the hips and vice versa for the central attachment
 
I’ve ran a sit drag for the last two seasons with only bridge attachment. It works great as the way Allegheny Tom suggested.
 
I asked the same question last year.
I kinda think that one set of loops may actually be more safe than 2 sets of loops.
My reasoning for that is with one set, they should be easier to find when under weight. When switching from tether to lineman, just follow the bridge with your hand to a single loop that is managed and controlled because your bridge (which is under weight) is right there. No feeling around for loose, floppy lineman loop.
Disclosure...I have not experimented with this. My thoughts are just an intuition on the concept. Am I missing something?
Test for yourself and be safe, don't take chances.

That's what I have experienced with my SitDrag but again I have not used a production model saddles.

All saddles are different. I think i built mine as a clone of a mantis...or a kestrel. I cant remember. But for me lineman vs bridge apply force differently. My linemans loops are on the waist band so they place load on my lower back as i lean away from the tree, which is what i want while climbing and hanging a set. My bridge connection places all the load on my butt, which i want for sitting and standing on stand. Could you use one set of connection points for dual duty? Probably. But it would not be ideal for my saddle. You would have to just use the brdige connection. Linemans only connection wouldnt let you sit.

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LeanMachine does bring some good points. The position of the connection points does dictate where pressure is applied. If this is the main reason that you have seperate bridges and lineman attachment points, I understand the concerns but I feel design of adjustable bridge pitch like the Phantom's confort channel or other saddles has offer a solution to this.

I'm actually thinking of using a rope as the connection point/loops with a pustik on each side to be able to adjust the pitch of the bridge. I saw a saddle that has that feature, cant remember which.
 
I like the second loop since my lineman is permanently attached to that loop on the left side. When I’m packing that rope back in my pouch for the hunt I don’t have to worry about it pulling on the bridge or getting in the way of the bridge. If you have removable lineman I could see the advantages.
I’m in the flex but have changed bridge and lineman to Oplux.
 
I like having separate loops. When I use a second linesman’s rope to go around limbs I will attach it to the bridge loops. That gives a little separation between the carabiners
 
I understand the concerns but I feel design of adjustable bridge pitch like the Phantom's confort channel or other saddles has offer a solution to this

Try it and see how it works. I don't see a safety issue with giving it a whirl.
 
I definitely prefer having two seperate connection points. I have made saddles three ways: single loop for both bridge and linemans, linemans loops on the waist belt Aerohunter style, and large loops Tethrd phantom style. I have to say, of all of the designs, my personal preference in the phantom style. Its easy for me to find and get clipped into in the dark, and I like have a little under butt pressure when climbing with my LB. I like leaving my LB girth hitched to my saddle at all time though, and I could see if you removed it not wanting a dedicated loop.
 
The linesman loops are set up higher on the saddle than the bridge loops. I wouldn't want just one set of loops on my saddle and I wouldn't like hooking into just one set of loops. I like the design of the saddles I think they work just fine.
 
I think you have to look at the construction of the two loop. The linemans belt loops are typically smaller and are placed similar to where you would place a belt on a pants. I think the reason why linemans loops are smaller is to have less room for your linemans belt/carabiner to move. Where as the bridge loops are bigger, giving your bridge more surface area to move with you as you move for a shot or to adjust for comfort.
 
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