It's just...a little crush... - Review of the JX3 Hybrid Saddle

[kyler1945]

What's your approach to shooting to the weak side?

A couple things to keep in mind when watching:

I don’t like to shoot this way. But I grow tired of people saying it can’t be done, or that it’s materially more difficult than a soft saddle.

My bow is cranked up to 11 from elk season, where I am on terra firma, and can easily draw 80lbs. I also haven’t shot since September. Cranking it down to 72-74lbs, and it’s much easier to draw and hold. I likely will hunt most of this season with the HC Mini.

In a tree stand, you lose essentially 5-7 on the shot behind you. For me, without moving around the tree, I essentially lose 4-6. Same in soft saddle. Advantage of saddle or hybrid is that you can maneuver around tree to open that shot. You can’t in a hang on(unless you’re using a harness under tension to lean out).

I don’t sit around and let deer get on my weak side often. I set up to have deer approach from 1-7 on the tree. I also address deer early, and it is incredibly easy quiet and fast to do in hybrid on ring of steps with the fork. Tons of videos showing how to do that. If you can avoid a weak side shot(as in, get in position early) do it.

By my terrible memory, I can think of 3 deer and 1 hog I’ve shot with over bridge technique with web and hybrid. I missed one deer, and then made a great second shot, deer died in sight. The others all died and were recovered within 200 yards. No different than the few I shot out of the kestrel the same way. Soft saddle and hybrid are the same in this regard.

Weak side shots suck. Avoid them. If you can’t, once the adrenaline pumps, you’d be surprised what kind of ways your body will bend and contort.

 

[okccj]

Well, I gave the .5 a shot and it wasn't the magic bullet I'd hoped for.

I'm going to commit to the JX3. I think using the t-screw with attached paracord on trees with a lean may help address one of the issues I had before when I gave the JX3 a trial run.

 

[JC3]

What's your approach to shooting to the weak side?

There doesn't have to be a "weak" side in the JX3.
With the ROS I'm never in a weak side shot
Rotate around the tree, using the original bridge and your tether up as high as you can reach.

 

[Bratch]

I’ve spent the past few days reading all 58 pages after @JC3 told me about this thing.

I’m shopping for my first saddle setup and have zero experience with them. I’ll be crossbow hunting out of it 90% of the time with an occasional rifle hunt. These are public land hunts and I usually sit for 3-4 hours in the morning and 2-3 hours in the evening, I’ll walk in maybe a mile but usually closer to a half mile. I will not be packing animals out, I’ll get a cart/sled from the truck and drag out. I’ll ruck with 30-50 pounds for 2-5 miles semi regularly and maintain a decent fitness levels.

What I have learned from reading is the hybrid excels at comfort and it can be used as a pack. Downside is a more weight.

I’ve seen a few guys mention they use the Hybrid but still use a normal saddle. What reasons would you still a traditional saddle?

Would you recommend I try the Hybrid or a traditional saddle based on my need case? The Cruzr XC is the saddle I am leaning towards.

 

[okccj]

Well, JX3 was delivered yesterday and this morning I killed a buck out of it. Can't beat that.

This is my second go with the JX3 and I think I'm going to stick with it permanently and really perfect it. The comfort and not having to hang a platform are well worth the weight penalty. Being able to sit perfectly still may be something I haven't rated high enough

 

[jbogg]

I’ve spent the past few days reading all 58 pages after @JC3 told me about this thing.

I’m shopping for my first saddle setup and have zero experience with them. I’ll be crossbow hunting out of it 90% of the time with an occasional rifle hunt. These are public land hunts and I usually sit for 3-4 hours in the morning and 2-3 hours in the evening, I’ll walk in maybe a mile but usually closer to a half mile. I will not be packing animals out, I’ll get a cart/sled from the truck and drag out. I’ll ruck with 30-50 pounds for 2-5 miles semi regularly and maintain a decent fitness levels.

What I have learned from reading is the hybrid excels at comfort and it can be used as a pack. Downside is a more weight.

I’ve seen a few guys mention they use the Hybrid but still use a normal saddle. What reasons would you still a traditional saddle?

Would you recommend I try the Hybrid or a traditional saddle based on my need case? The Cruzr XC is the saddle I am leaning towards.

I purchased several different saddles as well as the original JX 3 not long after it hit the market. I had never saddle hunted prior to that, but quickly sold all the others after trying to JX 3. I have mostly used a crossbow over the past 10 years, and the JX 3 is Taylor made for that. Most of my public land spots in the mountains are anywhere from 30 to 45 minute hikes one way and the JX 3 carries like a dream. I have packed out a couple of quartered up hogs and while not quite as comfortable as my horn Hunter meat pack, it is completely doable and nice to save a second trip back in. Save some time and just go with the JX 3, you will not be disappointed.

 

[okccj]

I purchased several different saddles as well as the original JX 3 not long after it hit the market. I had never saddle hunted prior to that, but quickly sold all the others after trying to JX 3. I have mostly used a crossbow over the past 10 years, and the JX 3 is Taylor made for that. Most of my public land spots in the mountains are anywhere from 30 to 45 minute hikes one way and the JX 3 carries like a dream. I have packed out a couple of quartered up hogs and while not quite as comfortable as my horn Hunter meat pack, it is completely doable and nice to save a second trip back in. Save some time and just go with the JX 3, you will not be disappointed.

Some people claim to be perfectly comfortable in a soft saddle and can remain still for 5+ hours. That was never me and I've been saddle hunting for 14 years, but it might be you. Can't know until you try them.

If you start with a JX3 the day will likely come when you get frustrated with size/bulk/configuration of the JX3 and you'll think maybe you should try a soft saddle. Sure give that a shot if you want, but don't sell the JX3 because there's a good chance you'll end up buying another one.
Soft saddle setups generally weigh less and are less bulky, but you still have a lineman's belt, bridge, and tether to deal with and you might also need to introduce a platform.

It's all about the difference in comfort. For me, there's a significant comfort improvement in the JX3 and justifies the tradeoffs.

 

[Ontariofarmer]

Yup. Good reminder you’ll be cleaning your britches if you use too long of a bridge. There’s no reason too. And it’s unsafe. If you’re not able to get your wits about you, or you’re a bit physically impaired, it might be hard to get back to square. The total movement of the bridge is captured for a reason.

Another reminder also that decisions on gear have been made on purpose by manufacturers. When you take matters into your own hands, remember that you may not have all the same information when making your decisions. This is a good example.

Quite honestly, if you can fit, and you’re willing to give up the offside shot, you don’t even need a bridge. I’ve hunted without a couple of times.

Yes do not change the bridge. Over rotation is a safety issue


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[tullybluejay]

I know it may be discussed already in the previous 58 pages, so please bare with me, as I don't want to scroll through all of that to answer my question. I am thinking of getting a JX3... AGAIN! I had one 2 years ago, but just didn't like having to carry my crossbow in my hands. I now have a a Hickory Creek mini (not here to discuss it) which kind of changes that scenario. I've tried a Cruzr XC, Dryad Drey and the Tethrd ESS. I don't like to sit with my knees in the tree. I've tried different climbing methods as well, one sticking, Wild Edge steps (I just couldn't set them consistently), Skeletors (I don't like carrying them, noise/weight), Silent Approach steps (not bad, just a little too much fiddle), and then back to one sting! I think I want to continue one stick climbing, which FINALLY brings me to my question...

Does anyone here one stick with the JX3? Is it even possible? Hard to find any videos, other than a guy doing it with the JX3 stick.

Any other suggestions on methods that work really well with the JX3. I know, that is all personal preference, but suggestions welcomed just the same.

I am wanting to hit the Checkout button, but really would like feedback on one sticking first. Thanks!

 

[TNSTAAFL]

I know it may be discussed already in the previous 58 pages, so please bare with me, as I don't want to scroll through all of that to answer my question. I am thinking of getting a JX3... AGAIN! I had one 2 years ago, but just didn't like having to carry my crossbow in my hands. I now have a a Hickory Creek mini (not here to discuss it) which kind of changes that scenario. I've tried a Cruzr XC, Dryad Drey and the Tethrd ESS. I don't like to sit with my knees in the tree. I've tried different climbing methods as well, one sticking, Wild Edge steps (I just couldn't set them consistently), Skeletors (I don't like carrying them, noise/weight), Silent Approach steps (not bad, just a little too much fiddle), and then back to one sting! I think I want to continue one stick climbing, which FINALLY brings me to my question...

Does anyone here one stick with the JX3? Is it even possible? Hard to find any videos, other than a guy doing it with the JX3 stick.

Any other suggestions on methods that work really well with the JX3. I know, that is all personal preference, but suggestions welcomed just the same.

I am wanting to hit the Checkout button, but really would like feedback on one sticking first. Thanks!

I did this morning, and last weekend... with this:

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[Plebe]

I know it may be discussed already in the previous 58 pages, so please bare with me, as I don't want to scroll through all of that to answer my question. I am thinking of getting a JX3... AGAIN! I had one 2 years ago, but just didn't like having to carry my crossbow in my hands. I now have a a Hickory Creek mini (not here to discuss it) which kind of changes that scenario. I've tried a Cruzr XC, Dryad Drey and the Tethrd ESS. I don't like to sit with my knees in the tree. I've tried different climbing methods as well, one sticking, Wild Edge steps (I just couldn't set them consistently), Skeletors (I don't like carrying them, noise/weight), Silent Approach steps (not bad, just a little too much fiddle), and then back to one sting! I think I want to continue one stick climbing, which FINALLY brings me to my question...

Does anyone here one stick with the JX3? Is it even possible? Hard to find any videos, other than a guy doing it with the JX3 stick.

Any other suggestions on methods that work really well with the JX3. I know, that is all personal preference, but suggestions welcomed just the same.

I am wanting to hit the Checkout button, but really would like feedback on one sticking first. Thanks!

I've tried it behind the house, but never for a hunt. I'm interested in what tips folks have as well.

I found it easy to hang while manipulating the stick, but I sometimes would end up shifted funny in the seat which would make it harder going.

1-sticking down in the JX3 sucks, so be set up and solid with your rappelling.

 

[Plebe]

I did this morning, and last weekend... with this:

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How is that top platform as a foot support when you're seated hunting? Comfortable as is, or do you rest your feet on a ROS like most?

I got one of those X-Wings to try with my JX3. 16" wide at the wings. I haven't tried it beyond a few minutes. Wasn't too bad but I'm not sure it's really worth it either, in weight or cost.

My one stick is set up with an upper step for shin clearance, but I'd consider something like you've got if it made for a good enough foot support when seated.

 

[TNSTAAFL]

How is that top platform as a foot support when you're seated hunting? Comfortable as is, or do you rest your feet on a ROS like most?

I got one of those X-Wings to try with my JX3. 16" wide at the wings. I haven't tried it beyond a few minutes. Wasn't too bad but I'm not sure it's really worth it either, in weight or cost.

My one stick is set up with an upper step for shin clearance, but I'd consider something like you've got if it made for a good enough foot support when seated.

No ROS for me when using that stick. I don't find them necessary when using it. The Monarch top extends close to the tree, and those corners are good heel spots. Your feet are tucked a little under you compared to ROS, but not bad enough to make me want to carry and use one. Plus, it's really nice to be able to stand up to stretch and generally escape the bound up feeling of dangling in a saddle.

It's not as stable or close to the tree as the EWO/UP, but the collapsible part makes it so much more packable with the JX3. You just don't know it's there when stowed between the seat and back. A little fiddly to deploy, but again, worth the tradeoff.

I broke my 1-stick season goal tonight and used my WEs and an ROS (due to Reds thread). They're great, and the ROS is prefect for foot placement...but, heavier, bulkier (weird to say), and still fiddly. 1-stick rappel wins.

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[Jimmyfunk60]

Took my kid out for youth season tonight we hung off a tree at ground level I had bolts in tree for climbing he asked me to put one on the other side he was pretty comfy.


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[tullybluejay]

I did this morning, and last weekend... with this:

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Would you be able to to give a brief description of your climbing process? I'm wondering, do you sit down with the fork into the tree to make a move? I'm envisioning it being smaller moves than in a saddle. Can you reach down as far to grab your stick? Thanks in advance!

 

[TNSTAAFL]

Would you be able to to give a brief description of your climbing process? I'm wondering, do you sit down with the fork into the tree to make a move? I'm envisioning it being smaller moves than in a saddle. Can you reach down as far to grab your stick? Thanks in advance!

Sure. The fork makes me nervous when climbing. I've gone back and forth with taking it out for the climb and find it not necessary to use for the climb. Lately I've left it installed but fully retracted.

I adjust my tether such that when I sit to move my stick, the seat just clears a couple inches above the top of my stick (directly under me). That way I can reach it without leaning much at all and use a foot to hold while unhooking the rope. Very secure position I find. No worries of tilting too far or dropping the stick. I then do the normal thing of pushing off the tree with a foot to place the stick under my tether so it holds it while I attach the rope. All normal 1-stick stuff.

So...I don't maximize the distance of each move, but I'm more than ok with that. Slow, smooth, and safe wins the race.

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[tullybluejay]

Sure. The fork makes me nervous when climbing. I've gone back and forth with taking it out for the climb and find it not necessary to use for the climb. Lately I've left it installed but fully retracted.

I adjust my tether such that when I sit to move my stick, the seat just clears a couple inches above the top of my stick (directly under me). That way I can reach it without leaning much at all and use a foot to hold while unhooking the rope. Very secure position I find. No worries of tilting too far or dropping the stick. I then do the normal thing of pushing off the tree with a foot to place the stick under my tether so it holds it while I attach the rope. All normal 1-stick stuff.

So...I don't maximize the distance of each move, but I'm more than ok with that. Slow, smooth, and safe wins the race.

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Thanks. I pulled the trigger and bought the JX3. I will just have to try one sticking with it when it comes.

 

[neonomad]

Thanks. I pulled the trigger and bought the JX3. I will just have to try one sticking with it when it comes.

For better or worse I use an RC harness along with the JX3, I just feel safer double connected to the tree once set up… added benefit is I one stick with good mobility from the belay loop with the JX3 folded up behind me.

 

[JC3]

Thanks. I pulled the trigger and bought the JX3. I will just have to try one sticking with it when it comes.

You should get the JX3 top stick to one stick if you can.
No more ROS and I find it more stable than my old 1.0" square tube stick.

 

[inarcher711]

Any chance anyone around Southeast Indiana have one they be willing to demo or are there any trades shows they may be at coming up? My nephew and I have been talking about these quite a bit lately and would like to try one out before we make the purchase.


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