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JRB new hitch

tmattson

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Anyone try out JRB's new saddle hunter hitch?
Nice option if you do not want to use a loop or eye on the end of rope.
Curious what you all think.

 
Anyone try out JRB's new saddle hunter hitch?
Nice option if you do not want to use a loop or eye on the end of rope.
Curious what you all think.


That dude comes up with some cool stuff. He teased in the comments that he is going to introduce a way that has no slack, but similar to 2TC. That would be of great interest to me.


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We’ll I’m intrigued…but I do like hitches…

“Hitches ain’t nothin but ropes with tricks” or something like that…


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That dude comes up with some cool stuff. He teased in the comments that he is going to introduce a way that has no slack, but similar to 2TC. That would be of great interest to me.


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He release a video today that explains it. Basically he use the saddle hunters hitch (that he came up with), hangs from one strand and uses the other strand to create another saddle hunters hitch above him.

 
Honestly, to this point I have been uninterested in JRB posts. This hitch I will try.
 
He release a video today that explains it. Basically he use the saddle hunters hitch (that he came up with), hangs from one strand and uses the other strand to create another saddle hunters hitch above him.


Yeah, that method has a whole lot of stuff going on. I do like that there is never any slack in the system, but man that’s a lot to keep track of.
 
Too much going on and flopping around for me… but the JRB Hitch is interesting.


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It looks interesting. I’m trying to figure out what the main advantage is. I guess the redundancy of two hitches? I would think that would double the force on the carabiner which may or may not be a big deal. You could have two pull up ropes but is it really worth it to have that much rope for that purpose? Is it really better than using a dedicated paracord type pull up rope?
 
It looks interesting. I’m trying to figure out what the main advantage is. I guess the redundancy of two hitches? I would think that would double the force on the carabiner which may or may not be a big deal. You could have two pull up ropes but is it really worth it to have that much rope for that purpose? Is it really better than using a dedicated paracord type pull up rope?

He has two hitches that he’s come up with. I believe you are referencing the jrb hitch and not the saddle hunters hitch. They both do different things and would have different uses. I could see the saddle hunters hitch being a good option for one stick climbing.


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Oh my bad, I am referencing the video in the first post called the Saddle hunters hitch. Using that for one sticking would be my concern with the two hitches. I believe the force would be roughly doubled on the carabiner if you fell with slack on your tether (if both hitches were same height and dressed similarly). Maybe they wouldn’t and I am looking at it incorrectly.
 
Oh my bad, I am referencing the video in the first post called the Saddle hunters hitch. Using that for one sticking would be my concern with the two hitches. I believe the force would be roughly doubled on the carabiner if you fell with slack on your tether (if both hitches were same height and dressed similarly). Maybe they wouldn’t and I am looking at it incorrectly.
Hitches also weaken the strength of your rope. The first hitch would split load around the tree so it wouldn’t be any worse than the normal girth hitch around the tree, the second hitch is a single line hitch and the carabiner locks it into place. As long as the system is tight, I wouldn’t worry but as per usual, a fall with slack and I would worry about that hitch snapping if you were on that particular leg. Overall I do not truly have a concern though because he is using it as a redundant connection point. Also if you are worried about the carabiner being the point of failure, a steel delta link would also work there in place of the carabiner
 
Hitches also weaken the strength of your rope. The first hitch would split load around the tree so it wouldn’t be any worse than the normal girth hitch around the tree, the second hitch is a single line hitch and the carabiner locks it into place. As long as the system is tight, I wouldn’t worry but as per usual, a fall with slack and I would worry about that hitch snapping if you were on that particular leg. Overall I do not truly have a concern though because he is using it as a redundant connection point. Also if you are worried about the carabiner being the point of failure, a steel delta link would also work there in place of the carabiner

what question do you think this hitch answering? Not having to pull your whole tag end through an eye? (same reason a quick link is used) it’s still dependent on a piece of hardware so why not just use the quick link on the end of the line?

If it’s to increase friction to keep your tether in place when you introduce slack at height (standup, get comfortable, etc) I think you can achieve the same thing by not running your tag end through the eye itself, but creating another girth hitch with the eye and putting your tag end through that (can make girth hitch as large as you want to pass tag end through)

I see value in this because it is simply another way to tie off to a tree if you have limited resources (forgot tether at home but have rappel line, etc).
 
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what question do you think this hitch answering? Not having to pull your whole tag end through an eye? (same reason a quick link is used)
On his other video he is using the fact the it can be double weighted and the tag ends can be advanced and tied in to pass your original hitch point. This leads me to believe it is his version/answer to 2 tether climbing. Although if you take a linesman rope, 2 tether climbing is still just as easy as well as safe. Interestingly enough he made a webbing and 2x4 to use to stand on instead of standing in a singular foot loop. I did that a couple years ago. As long as it is weighted and your perfectly vertical it works well to help stand up however it can be prone to kicking out and Is very noisy. I had no idea what 2 tc was or that people did it. After researching it, I made some adjustments that seem to help with stability and to some extent the noise. It’s stil safer and easier just to climb DRT or SRT though, at least in my opinion. I don’t see guys being out in the woods at dark and repeatedly tying these advanced hitches in the dark when they want to get up the tree before that buck starts heading back to the bedding area. We need people like JBR to push the envelope and bounce ideas off of other people. Sometimes it creates all new methods. Sometimes it lead to vast improvements on existing methods. And sometimes it just leads to 15 minutes of fame. Either way I still like that he is trying new things. Although I’d feel better if he would have some published drop tests showing these hitches to be safe before introducing them to the mass influx of new saddle hunters, many of which have never used ropes to climb
 
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