Yeah. I was reading up on that just now. Hopefully I can cancel my order in time. 
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Madrock Safeguards on Campsaver
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Set it up like this (don’t start out at 20’!). Pull the Ssfeguard lever with your left hand (you have to pull harder than you think). Use the friction from the carabiner (attached to a leg loop or lineman’s loop ) with your right hand (brake hand).
FWIW, I usually skip the carabiner and just hold the line with my right hand, but I’ve done it enough to be able to know how hard to pull the lever to descend at a controllable speed.
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Set it up like this (don’t start out at 20’!). Pull the Ssfeguard lever with your left hand (you have to pull harder than you think). Use the friction from the carabiner (attached to a leg loop or lineman’s loop ) with your right hand (brake hand).
FWIW, I usually skip the carabiner and just hold the line with my right hand, but I’ve done it enough to be able to know how hard to pull the lever to descend at a controllable speed.
I have been using an ATC and VT prussic above it. Do you back it up with some kind of friction hitch?
You can if you want, but I would just stick with the ATC and
VT then. The Safeguard (to me) is like having both in one device.
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Still available on the MadRock web site......
I checked with MadRock the other day too as I was trying to find out if a newer version was coming out. The Safeguard is not being discontinued - I think CampSaver is just not going to be stocking MadRock products anymore. Actually, since they are selling everything below minimum advertised pricing (MAP) they won't be allowed to sell MadRock either way.
Email reply from MadRock:
Thank you for your interest in Mad Rock's Safeguard!
We are aware of the wording on Campsaver and are working to resolve this issue. We are not discontinuing the Safeguard. Campsaver is simply liquidating their selection of Mad Rock gear. You don't have to worry about your favorite piece of gear going extinct. We can always help you pick one up from MadRock.com!
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Thank you for your interest in Mad Rock's Safeguard!
We are aware of the wording on Campsaver and are working to resolve this issue. We are not discontinuing the Safeguard. Campsaver is simply liquidating their selection of Mad Rock gear. You don't have to worry about your favorite piece of gear going extinct. We can always help you pick one up from MadRock.com!
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The safeguard doesn't have a spring to open it when tension is released on the rope. It stays locked somewhat better than the lifeguard.
Yes, for our uses we should use the Safeguard. It is the same as the Lifeguard without the spring so it catches immediately.