Another update after some hard scouting days....so they get wet cause they aren't waterproof...I purposely submerged them walking thru knee deep water. The drain holes allowed the water to escape so u don't get squishy socks too bad. Hour on the boot drier and they fully dry. On the days not walking thru standing water and there just wet dew on the foliage the leather soaks it up and gets darker color but they dry and back to original color after just couple hours walking around. Debating treating them with camp dry but haven't decided yet if that's needed or not. Liner sock, wool, and these boots....heat index has been over hundo on the days I went out and I was very pleased with how not raisined my toes were when I removed my shoes. Ground response/feel is so nice yet the joe jumper cactus didn't pierce thru so they tough enough