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New gear 2026 edition….

I was holding off on starting it but that’s a good way to kick this off.
 
I just don't get the new bow fascination. They've been the same exact thing for 15 years now endlessly regurgitated. They change the cams and cable saver to a different style every 5 years and call it game changing and innovative. Then once everyone forgets, they go right back to what it was and call it something else to seem new.

Zero innovation.
 
bigmike23 said:
I just don't get the new bow fascination. They've been the same exact thing for 15 years now endlessly regurgitated. They change the cams and cable saver to a different style every 5 years and call it game changing and innovative. Then once everyone forgets, they go right back to what it was and call it something else to seem new.

Zero innovation.
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I generally don’t even look at new bows anymore. I’m super happy with my 14YO bow that shoots straight and fast. I watched a bunch of MFJJ’s bow reviews this year…nothing to write home about unless you’re chasing FPS or you’re an actual bow technician (it does seem that tuning has become easier in the last 15 years).
There might be something to that tuning bit. I know that when I walk into the archery shop to have my PSE tuned they only give it to their best guy to work on because it’s more of a PITA than the newer stuff.
 
DelaWhere_Arrow said:
I generally don’t even look at new bows anymore. I’m super happy with my 14YO bow that shoots straight and fast. I watched a bunch of MFJJ’s bow reviews this year…nothing to write home about unless you’re chasing FPS or you’re an actual bow technician (it does seem that tuning has become easier in the last 15 years).
There might be something to that tuning bit. I know that when I walk into the archery shop to have my PSE tuned they only give it to their best guy to work on because it’s more of a PITA than the newer stuff.
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I stay away from Hoyts because their gears were just too complicated. Different cams require different strings, then different mods, etc. I think the way compound bows are more tunable now reflect how bows are designed towards hunting more than target archery. Not saying its a bad thing to be able to configurate a bow, but just for casual hunters, the Mathews switchweight mods were really a game changer.
 
HuumanCreed said:
I stay away from Hoyts because their gears were just too complicated. Different cams require different strings, then different mods, etc. I think the way compound bows are more tunable now reflect how bows are designed towards hunting more than target archery. Not saying its a bad thing to be able to configurate a bow, but just for casual hunters, the Mathews switchweight mods were really a game changer.
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Agreed. And the mod’s maintain cam efficiency across the range of draw lengths and draw weights. Being able to tune a bow without the need for a bow press increases the utility for the bow hunter. And draw length and draw weights can be changed for $60 and with a hex wrench. I will say though, that I’m surprised there isn’t a fine tune timing feature with the SWX-2 cams, though.
 
That Mathews video is odd. Strange way to market your current design by saying your old design sucked, the riser had to much flex and beyond parallel limbs caused the bow to be unstable.

Then the whole “these bows are rated to honest real world speeds this year” or something like that…soooo are you admitting your speeds last year were fictional?
 
Best thing about the Mathews release is the smooth z-mods that are compatible with the lifts
 
New Hoyt’s are out. The have a new tuning feature at the limb pockets. Otherwise look identical as last years models. Same cams and risers….
 
enkriss said:
Best thing about the Mathews release is the smooth z-mods that are compatible with the lifts
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I saw that. Lancaster has a video out already. PJ shot the regular mods at 2fps less than advertised, and the Z modes at 16fps less than IBO. He sure seemed to like the Z mods though.

Regarding the Mathews video, I feel differently. I think Mark Hayes did a good job explaining the differences in limb angles and why they do what they do. The move away from Monkey Tails is interesting too. I am also surprised to see a shorter riser after all of the claims about longer risers being better. As far as the angled stabilizer I would prefer a second hole in the riser rather than having to buy a new stabilizer.
 
ShooterMike said:
I saw that. Lancaster has a video out already. PJ shot the regular mods at 2fps less than advertised, and the Z modes at 16fps less than IBO. He sure seemed to like the Z mods though.

Regarding the Mathews video, I feel differently. I think Mark Hayes did a good job explaining the differences in limb angles and why they do what they do. The move away from Monkey Tails is interesting too. I am also surprised to see a shorter riser after all of the claims about longer risers being better. As far as the angled stabilizer I would prefer a second hole in the riser rather than having to buy a new stabilizer.
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I had a lift x last year. Not sure I will get another Mathews till they have a new grip. I tried them all even sideplates and i just couldn’t make it jive
 
Elite has 4 new ones - a hunting bow, a youth/grow with you bow, a carbon, and a new target model.

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BT
 
bigmike23 said:
I just don't get the new bow fascination. They've been the same exact thing for 15 years now endlessly regurgitated. They change the cams and cable saver to a different style every 5 years and call it game changing and innovative. Then once everyone forgets, they go right back to what it was and call it something else to seem new.

Zero innovation.
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Agreed. Not to mention you can get a pretty sweet xbow for what a compound goes for nowadays.
 
HuumanCreed said:
Guess I was wrong hoping compound bows were trending toward being lighter in mass.....

Guess I'll go back to looking for a used Mathews Heli-M
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Weight is the one area that Elite needs to improve on. 4.5 pounds for a carbon at 32.5 Ata is a bit ridiculous. Im all in for Elite because of how well they shoot, hold, draw, how quiet they are, and how easy to tune they are, but good grief they need to go on a diet.

BT
 
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