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Interesting discussion and ideas. Seriously considering giving this a try!
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No Sticking Thread
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I leave the gear tie on the tether right behind the eye, then form the tail end into a hook shape and hang my Solo Scout from the hook. Could easily wrap the tail around a heavier platform and put a twist in it, if needed.
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Example of a platform with a cam cleat installed. 
Anybody install a cam cleat on their platform? Update-Installed.
The purpose of the nite ize is to use it as a handle to reach down and grab the platform? Is the purpose of the bungee to reach down and easily uncam it? The vertical gear tie does function as a pull up handle. The (bungie) is a soft shackle type of connect that is not elastic. Its purpose is...
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HuntNorthEast
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Awesome! Thanks for the post!
To revive the no sticking thread - here's what I've been messing with. I added a cam cleat to my solo scout using a cut down 2" t-bar of 6061 aluminum, which I cut to fit right between the attachment post welds. I thought the t on the back would provide some added torsion resistance. I sanded it to remove burrs, and it's attached to the scout via two grade 8 (originally said grade 5...my bad) bolts. Then the cam cleat is attached to the t-bar.
It works ok? Your mileage may vary, and modifying manufacturer products probably isn't smart. The t-bar feel pretty weighty (I don't have a scale that size, but it's a chunk of 6061!), and the system inherently wants to pull off center a bit because the attachments aren't symmetrical. I have a second strap to secure it once at hunting height.
Honestly, I'm still not sure ifI'm going to use it this fall. But, it's been a fun project.
It works ok? Your mileage may vary, and modifying manufacturer products probably isn't smart. The t-bar feel pretty weighty (I don't have a scale that size, but it's a chunk of 6061!), and the system inherently wants to pull off center a bit because the attachments aren't symmetrical. I have a second strap to secure it once at hunting height.
Honestly, I'm still not sure ifI'm going to use it this fall. But, it's been a fun project.
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Man to some people those are grade 8 roll pins
jkThe bolts holding the t-bar are 1/4" grade 8 (I originally posted grade 5 and edited), like we use on sticks etc. That being said, I won't defend my actions as a great idea...just something I wanted to try. Man, if I could get a purpose-built scout where the cam cleat had an appropriate surface, and was symmetrical to the other attachment, I think that would be sweet.
I have to agree... The bolts being in single shear like than and the leverage from the camming action is something u may be ok with but I wouldn't use it except right at ground level until I was really really really convinced those bolt holes are staying round and ur t bar isn't deflecting/deforming. Doesn't having the different height attachment points make for a lean when u are on it?....maybe it's fine but my spider sense is tingling
Your spidey sense is probably right. I appreciate the feedback. It wants to cant during the set, but you can get it to set level, to the point where standing on it feels like normal. I think it's the crazy contact points on the scout. If there was enough real estate for another couple of bolts, I'd feel better about the whole system.
What's the benefit of that contraption over a stick or wild edge stepp and doing the same climbing method? Am I missing something?
If it was safe, which it may not be, the benefit over a stick is size. It's a compact package that sets solid at hunting height. The benefit over a stepp is ease of setting on the way up. I just really like how the cam cleat reduces fiddle factor on the way up.
try a stepp with a cam buckle strap. There’s not much easier to set that comes close to being as stable. Roughly similar surface area or add a few ounces of platform insert to it at height
I don’t use this, but that thing looks like trouble. Maybe I’m missing it.
I’ve used both the wild edge stepps and the solo scout and the scout is way more comfortable as a platform. Much prefer it. They may seem like similar surface area, but they’re really not.
I really like this idea that you are trying [mention]zolson [/mention] as a solo scout with cam cleat could be great. Hope you figure out a way to make it work safely. Keep me posted, for sure.
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@zolson - as I mentioned above, I like this idea and noodled it some previously but don't feel like I have the equipment to do it right. What I *think* needs to happen is that the button on the right side needs to be cut off and replaced with a wedge that the cam cleat mounts to in order to ensure that the rope attaches at the same angle as originally intended. I'm talking about the area circled in red below...
Of course, once that button is cutoff, there's no going back!
As it is, the solo scout with the stock cam strap is a viable no-stick climbing method that I have used a number of times. With a cam cleat to make attachment faster and easier, it could possibly be even better - the 2 things I'm unsure about are:
1. To get the cam-over effect, you need the right tension - is it easier to adjust tension with the cam buckle or with the cam cleat where you have to remove the rope completely to reset? Warrants testing.
2. I attach 2 slotted squirrel steps to my cam strap once I reach height - will those still work ok with the attachment rope instead of the strap?
Like I said, interested to see where this goes. Please keep me posted.
Of course, once that button is cutoff, there's no going back!
As it is, the solo scout with the stock cam strap is a viable no-stick climbing method that I have used a number of times. With a cam cleat to make attachment faster and easier, it could possibly be even better - the 2 things I'm unsure about are:
1. To get the cam-over effect, you need the right tension - is it easier to adjust tension with the cam buckle or with the cam cleat where you have to remove the rope completely to reset? Warrants testing.
2. I attach 2 slotted squirrel steps to my cam strap once I reach height - will those still work ok with the attachment rope instead of the strap?
Like I said, interested to see where this goes. Please keep me posted.
^^^ That a good idea Drew BUT a decent size tree wouldn't let your rope stay in the cleat.
The rope wouldn't be pulling back into the 'deepest' part of the teeth enough and could maybe pop right out?
The rope wouldn't be pulling back into the 'deepest' part of the teeth enough and could maybe pop right out?
Yup, I totally agree and that’s why I said a wedge is needed to angle the cam cleat properly.
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Not to get off the original no stick topic of this thread but regarding the welds on a platform like the scout. I have one and love it, used it all last season and didn't use my RR once. But for you welder's out there, should we be inspecting the welds on these things? In looking at that pic of the scout above with the clam cleat mod, it reminded me that I'm always wondering about the welds on these scouts. @Weldabeast what are your thoughts?