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OOAL Sticks

EricS said:
Thanks for addressing my question.
I don’t want to rely on a pack for carrying sticks. 2x2 works great attached to your hybrid or a stand but half the season I didn’t even carry a pack and the other half it was just a badlands eastern day pack. I’d much rather carry them slung over a shoulder on my side.
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Then you'll be fine. I'd use one of my ropes or straps as the sling, and use one of them to wrap the whole bundle up. They'll carry nicely that way.

I looked at that pack just now, four would stash nicely under those two top compression straps. If it were me, I'd add a second side compression strap on outside of the waterbottle mesh pockets, and run two on each side. You could speedy stitch that up in about 20 minutes.

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enkriss said:
If you can only stack two together then the Achilles heel of these sticks is the problem it’s supposed to be solving. Packability... They look neat but I don’t know. The more I analyze them the less I like them....:oops:
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I can't think of a scenario where I'd prefer four stacked on top of each other, besides what Eric is looking at doing by slinging them over shoulder. If they are going on any pack, or platform, or stand, two side by side seems to make much more sense. If I have the option to have a 10" wide x 1.5" deep load in the meat shelf, or on the front of a pack, I'll take that all day over a 4"x4" load.

I get the superficial desire to want the sticks to nest regardless of quantity, but I guess I'm missing the actual real world function of it from a packing perspective. School me! I'd like to understand.

Edit - I get it with the LWCG - they're 3/4" side profile, and four of them is 3" deep. That might make sense. But because the OOAL sticks are double step, and the step is 1" tall, you're back to 4" deep when on their side. I want the load flat, and close to my back. Or if it's on the front of the pack, i still want it flat.
 
At 5/8" I'd be curious about the overall stiffness. I've built sticks in the past from 3/4" stock and they were a little spongy for my preference.

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bowhunter15 said:
At 5/8" I'd be curious about the overall stiffness. I've built sticks in the past from 3/4" stock and they were a little spongy for my preference.

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Could be another reason they are only 19 inches long/17.5? step to step
 
kyler1945 said:
I can't think of a scenario where I'd prefer four stacked on top of each other, besides what Eric is looking at doing by slinging them over shoulder. If they are going on any pack, or platform, or stand, two side by side seems to make much more sense. If I have the option to have a 10" wide x 1.5" deep load in the meat shelf, or on the front of a pack, I'll take that all day over a 4"x4" load.

I get the superficial desire to want the sticks to nest regardless of quantity, but I guess I'm missing the actual real world function of it from a packing perspective. School me! I'd like to understand.

Edit - I get it with the LWCG - they're 3/4" side profile, and four of them is 3" deep. That might make sense. But because the OOAL sticks are double step, and the step is 1" tall, you're back to 4" deep when on their side. I want the load flat, and close to my back. Or if it's on the front of the pack, i still want it flat.
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I think have about convinced myself to order a few when they become available. Can you measure the distance from tree to step on a normal size tree?
 
I'd wait for some long term reviews on this stick, the moving part design for pack-ability is a flaw from what I see. Imagine taking these sticks on your pack, through 1-2 miles of brush, crawling under fence/trees, wading through cattails to find out that you have mud, dirt, bark in the recessed area where your steps lock into. Of course you would see this in broad daylight, but you're setting up for the morning hunt and have 30 mins before first light, I would see these types of scenarios causing hunters to overlook checking the step has fully rotated and is flushed in the recessed area. Just my .02 cents on this stick.
 
mnarchery01 said:
I'd wait for some long term reviews on this stick, the moving part design for pack-ability is a flaw from what I see. Imagine taking these sticks on your pack, through 1-2 miles of brush, crawling under fence/trees, wading through cattails to find out that you have mud, dirt, bark in the recessed area where your steps lock into. Of course you would see this in broad daylight, but you're setting up for the morning hunt and have 30 mins before first light, I would see these types of scenarios causing hunters to overlook checking the step has fully rotated and is flushed in the recessed area. Just my .02 cents on this stick.
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ive walked abiut 20 miles, paddled about 20 miles and biked a handful of miles with the sticks. I’ve slipped and fallen, busted through crap most people won’t. I’ve hunted in water mud hills sand thicket. The set I have is covered in mud grit and chit.

It’s a small sample, but I don’t see this being an issue. Will you have to clean the slot out on occasion? Maybe. Just like muddy pros or helium’s. The main reason it’s a non concern is the mechanical advantage of the knob and bolt. You’re not pushing the step down, that MA is doing the work, forcing out anything On the post. And the slot is covered by the stick when folded.

It’s not for everyone. But it’s not a failure mode, that’s an unfair characterization. I think ‘more maintenance than a stick with no moving parts’ is a more accurate answer.
 
mnarchery01 said:
I'd wait for some long term reviews on this stick, the moving part design for pack-ability is a flaw from what I see. Imagine taking these sticks on your pack, through 1-2 miles of brush, crawling under fence/trees, wading through cattails to find out that you have mud, dirt, bark in the recessed area where your steps lock into. Of course you would see this in broad daylight, but you're setting up for the morning hunt and have 30 mins before first light, I would see these types of scenarios causing hunters to overlook checking the step has fully rotated and is flushed in the recessed area. Just my .02 cents on this stick.
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You make it sound like you use your sticks as a walking stick. Mine are attached to my pack so I will make sure its not being dragged through the mud or getting caught up on brush. I have not used these sticks or seen them in person but I do not see your issues as a problem.
 
Gamover06 said:
You make it sound like you use your sticks as a walking stick. Mine are attached to my pack so I will make sure its not being dragged through the mud or getting caught up on brush. I have not used these sticks or seen them in person but I do not see your issues as a problem.
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I'm sure you can't get it dirty if you're just walking on logging trails, just saying I would see scenarios of these sticks getting dirty at places I go.
 
Looks like these are available on the website now. I know when I last talked to Matt he was getting components finished, so turnarounds shouldn't be too too crazy.

I like his idea of picking your step style and attachment method. I have been using a very similar webbing to the flat strap he offers. No buckles, weigh nothing, take up no space.

I am not a multi stick guy at all. But for weight and packability, these are hard to beat. I'm going to put the single steps through the ringer now. And do some one sticking with both styles.
 
Has anyone even mentioned this:
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outonalimbmfg.com

SCOUT Platform

Designed for minimalist hunters, the Scout platform for OOAL SHIKAR Sticks will get to the woods and in a tree carrying as little extra weight as possible. Stay mobile and stay ready.
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pesqimon said:
Has anyone even mentioned this:
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outonalimbmfg.com

SCOUT Platform

Designed for minimalist hunters, the Scout platform for OOAL SHIKAR Sticks will get to the woods and in a tree carrying as little extra weight as possible. Stay mobile and stay ready.
outonalimbmfg.com outonalimbmfg.com
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It's pretty slick. I haven't had hands on one. I built a very similar "stickform" a while back. The idea was to be able to one stick, and then have what little "platform" I need. It seems to fit that bill perfectly. The angle is the ticket in my mind - it's been the issue with the other one you can buy and add to a stick to me. I welded mine at a -15* angle. If it's at 90* and you're on the high side of the lean, you won't be using any more than the edge of the platform, making it useless. Adjustable angle would of course be nice, but it at least needs to be at some sort of negative angle for comfort/use.
 
kyler1945 said:
It's pretty slick. I haven't had hands on one. I built a very similar "stickform" a while back. The idea was to be able to one stick, and then have what little "platform" I need. It seems to fit that bill perfectly. The angle is the ticket in my mind - it's been the issue with the other one you can buy and add to a stick to me. I welded mine at a -15* angle. If it's at 90* and you're on the high side of the lean, you won't be using any more than the edge of the platform, making it useless. Adjustable angle would of course be nice, but it at least needs to be at some sort of negative angle for comfort/use.
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How do you get off a weak side shot with that platform?
 
enkriss said:
I think have about convinced myself to order a few when they become available. Can you measure the distance from tree to step on a normal size tree?
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It ranged from 3-4" on the trees I've hunted so far. I just paid attention to what teeth hit the tree while I was hunting and measured just now.
 
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