Origin steps?

[bigcat93]

Lot of posts on these and I’m intrigued.

How many are running some steps and then a stick to hang platform?

I like the idea of both feet in 1 step at same height to hang platform/stand.

 

[enkriss]

I tried it with OCBs and thought it was way too strappy. You also want to keep your foot solid against the tree and stomp them in place a bit before stepping on them. I was not a fan.

 

[GeoFish]

I tried it with OCBs and thought it was way too strappy. You also want to keep your foot solid against the tree and stomp them in place a bit before stepping on them. I was not a fan.

That's because straps stretch.
The steps are designed to work with the USA Amsteel.
Best tree step ever made.

 

[enkriss]

That's because straps stretch.
The steps are designed to work with the USA Amsteel.
Best tree step ever made.

I am willing to give them a try again with that attachment. Will that attachment work with a ring of steps also?

 

[GeoFish]

I am willing to give them a try again with that attachment. Will that attachment work with a ring of steps also?

No.

 

[raisins]

I have the Origin steps for next season. I haven't used them yet.

However, I have used Treehopper strap on steps for 6 seasons, and it is the same concept.

Unless you have a medical issue, there is no reason to have both feet at the same level to hang your platform.

Time things so that when at the top of your climb your "up leg" is not directly under the platform. Hang the platform, like you're hanging a step, then just step up onto it. Never an issue. I think carrying an extra stick defeats the purpose of the steps (being ultralight and compact and simple).

Heck, even if I time it wrong or change my mind at height, I just hang the platform, hinge it up, and then I have step from beneath the platform and then just cammed it down as I step onto it. Not as nice, but it works.

 

[raisins]

I tried it with OCBs and thought it was way too strappy. You also want to keep your foot solid against the tree and stomp them in place a bit before stepping on them. I was not a fan.

The original Bullman steps also were not as good as the Origins geometrically and would flip over. I sold the original ones because I couldn't stand them with their shape and polypro straps. The new ones, I've only climbed a few steps up, but I can already tell they are way better.

 

[enkriss]

Ordered a couple of the origin steps to try over the weekend. Was hoping I would have them this coming weekend to mess around with but they haven’t shipped yet.

 

[MattMan81]

Curious about these as well. How difficult is the attachment method when your climbing? Are you standing on one peg and other foot against the tree? Using your tether and hanging?
I notice I really like having both my feet planted when attaching sticks. Would this be an issue with an individual steps?

 

[GeoFish]

Curious about these as well. How difficult is the attachment method when your climbing? Are you standing on one peg and other foot against the tree? Using your tether and hanging?
I notice I really like having both my feet planted when attaching sticks. Would this be an issue with an individual steps?

The attachment method is what make these steps fast and easy. It takes less then 15 seconds to hand a step once you get the hang of it.
I have old feet and standing on one foot for a long time can get uncomfortable. So I alternate feet.
I set my steps at 16" spacing.
I hang my first 4 steps with both feet on the ground. I start with step 4 set at 68", the height of my chin. Then step 3 at 48", the height of my rib cage. Step 2 at 32", my inseam. And step 1 just below my knee.
Then I take one step up and hang step 5 at my chin. Then rinse and repeat. So each step is always hung at chin height once my feet leave the ground. This way I always alternate my feet when hanging steps so I never stand on the same foot for long.
You could sit in your saddle while hanging steps, but I have not found this necessary. I am going to try sitting in my saddle when I hang my platform since this takes longer then hanging a step.

 

[BTaylor]

Curious about these as well. How difficult is the attachment method when your climbing? Are you standing on one peg and other foot against the tree? Using your tether and hanging?
I notice I really like having both my feet planted when attaching sticks. Would this be an issue with an individual steps?

I do a little similar to @GeoFish, I hang three from the ground and then two at a time as I climb. You can heel hook like 2TC or use a lineman's or hang with a tether or rappel rope. You are going to be on one foot while you set steps but it is not like being on a stick, bolt, screw in step or aider. There is enough surface area that it is way more comfortable than any of those.

 

[enkriss]

The attachment method is what make these steps fast and easy. It takes less then 15 seconds to hand a step once you get the hang of it.
I have old feet and standing on one foot for a long time can get uncomfortable. So I alternate feet.
I set my steps at 16" spacing.
I hang my first 4 steps with both feet on the ground. I start with step 4 set at 68", the height of my chin. Then step 3 at 48", the height of my rib cage. Step 2 at 32", my inseam. And step 1 just below my knee.
Then I take one step up and hang step 5 at my chin. Then rinse and repeat. So each step is always hung at chin height once my feet leave the ground. This way I always alternate my feet when hanging steps so I never stand on the same foot for long.
You could sit in your saddle while hanging steps, but I have not found this necessary. I am going to try sitting in my saddle when I hang my platform since this takes longer then hanging a step.

Was my brain glitching or is that video whacky?

 

[MattMan81]

Was my brain glitching or is that video whacky?

Yes. I was questioning his counting since the video looked spliced together.

 

[raisins]

Curious about these as well. How difficult is the attachment method when your climbing? Are you standing on one peg and other foot against the tree? Using your tether and hanging?
I notice I really like having both my feet planted when attaching sticks. Would this be an issue with an individual steps?

You have 2 feet on the tree sharing the weight. One foot down, one up. It takes less than a minute to attach a step and step up. Bullman's videos advocate attaching 2 steps prior to making a move. In the past, with Treehopper steps, I would move after each step attachment. This alternates which leg is in down position and holding most of the weight and limits the amount of time in a static position. This has never been an issue. I use the top of my up position leg as a guide for the next steps attachment distance. It is more of a concern with sticks, especially if you use aiders, because with staggered steps on the sticks you are attaching higher up on the tree than you are with these steps.

 

[raisins]

I climb one step at a time leaning back into my lineman's while pushing my tether ahead of me as a back up.

Strap on Treehoppers are no harder than sticks and easier than sticks with aiders, to me at least.

 

[enkriss]

If you order these they are on back order. Just so you’re aware. Doesn’t say they aren’t in stock on the website. Kinda of aggravating.

 

[MattMan81]

Did you try the previous version @enkriss ?
Or anyone else for that fact. Why do you think these are better than the old ones? Watched a few videos. Curious what you guys think.

 

[enkriss]

Did you try the previous version @enkriss ?
Or anyone else for that fact. Why do you think these are better than the old ones? Watched a few videos. Curious what you guys think.

The origin are longer and have that slot for the Amsteel to ride in they gotta be much more stable.

I tried the original ones and they would hinge away from the tree.

 

[raisins]

Did you try the previous version @enkriss ?
Or anyone else for that fact. Why do you think these are better than the old ones? Watched a few videos. Curious what you guys think.

I had the very first iteration like 6 years ago and sold them here to someone that already had some (so my conscience was clear). They were a very different design and would flip over on the tree unless you were overly careful. The new ones don't have that problem. I would never use the earlier version.

 

[Buckhorn70]

I have a set of Orgin Steps and used them a couple times last year. They are definitely a viable climbing option. Highly packable and light weight. There is a a fiddle factor attaching the ropes but not to bad once you development muscle memory for installing. They do flip up at times when climbing but I just flip them down….. no big deal for me.

I think they are worth a try but you have to stick with them for a bit to get used to them.