Because of weight? Or you think sticks are faster?
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Sticks are faster… less fiddling around
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Got mine in with the straps yesterday.
Set the straps all up and put one on a tree. I agree these will have some fiddle factor. Everything does in its own way.
So far they seem pretty good! A lot of thought and iterations with this version of the steps.
One nice feature I noticed, you can’t easily “spin” the step around the strap. You have to be mindful of how you’re sliding the strap into the step to align everything properly when first setting them up. Once you do; however, everything seems to stay properly oriented for deployment. So each time you set up, you’re only dealing with lateral adjustments on the tree. The steps aren’t spinning on the strap vertically and orienting upside down etc.
One con is now, instead of three or four straps, ropes, etc. You’re dealing with 8,10, or 12 etc. something I didn’t think of or consider until I was setting them up. So more pre and post hunt fiddle factor.
They obviously are lightweight and compact so you don’t have to worry about strapping sticks onto a pack or anything.
I think a set of these with a Pursuit platform would be a super compact and lightweight mobile hunting system.
Set the straps all up and put one on a tree. I agree these will have some fiddle factor. Everything does in its own way.
So far they seem pretty good! A lot of thought and iterations with this version of the steps.
One nice feature I noticed, you can’t easily “spin” the step around the strap. You have to be mindful of how you’re sliding the strap into the step to align everything properly when first setting them up. Once you do; however, everything seems to stay properly oriented for deployment. So each time you set up, you’re only dealing with lateral adjustments on the tree. The steps aren’t spinning on the strap vertically and orienting upside down etc.
One con is now, instead of three or four straps, ropes, etc. You’re dealing with 8,10, or 12 etc. something I didn’t think of or consider until I was setting them up. So more pre and post hunt fiddle factor.
They obviously are lightweight and compact so you don’t have to worry about strapping sticks onto a pack or anything.
I think a set of these with a Pursuit platform would be a super compact and lightweight mobile hunting system.
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I got the bag too. Was thinking of using a ROS would be super minimalist. Also, would have to likely take a massive hit to sell these so probably not worth it. Atleast have another setup if needed.
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How are you guys carrying them in? I was hoping I couldn’t fit five each in my large CGM bags on my saddle. Stuff the pursuit into the small of my back (I use suspenders) and be ready to roll. They do fit ok in my tool belt.
If you wrap the Amsteel like shown in post 54 & 55 you can hang a step in about 10 seconds.
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Makes sense. I have always been a little annoyed with the 17” step distance almost every stick seems to be in the last couple years. I am way comfortable with that distance and really would be fine with probably 20-22” or so. You must be pretty tall to be able to stretch 33” between steps...
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He has the buckle straps I believe
Trying to decide if I want to try these.
I hate carrying sticks up the tree. I am not the smoothest at it. I like the idea of just carrying a bag on the side.
But like you guys said. The down side is I have to hang 10 of them instead of 3-4 sticks.
I hate carrying sticks up the tree. I am not the smoothest at it. I like the idea of just carrying a bag on the side.
But like you guys said. The down side is I have to hang 10 of them instead of 3-4 sticks.
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Just a thought. You could replace the sticks you hang once you start ascending with steps and continue to use one or two at ground level. When I was still using sticks I could hang one as high as I could reach and use a one step aider. That got the top of the first stick to over 7 feet. That way you might only need 6 steps, depending on how high you want to go.
Yeah. I have been thinking about that some. Stick with an aider at the base. Place the next stick. Use steps to get to finished desired height.
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I have these and re-did all my continuous loops and one full attachment system (because I glazed it when stretching everything with body weight....one hitch just kept sliding down). I wanted all the hitches the same size. It wasn't bad after I got a real splicer/puller in the correct/tiny size.
Can you please explain the glazing and why the hitch slipped?
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In the tutorials, Bullman shows to put the step on a tree, step on it, and then take up the slack from all the stretching/setting and then repeat until it stops moving.
I did a more extreme approach to this. I looped the attachment system around a bar stool and then stood on the cord with one foot in it while lifting myself and balancing on the stool. Most would slide a hair and then grab and everything would stretch all at once. I wanted to fully stretch mine so that I would never get any slack in the field.
One of my hitches never grabbed and just slid all the way down until my foot was on the floor. I did it again, and it was only worse and I could feel heat on the cords and looking at it in the light the mainline was shinier than it should be and felt slick. So, I just completely remade that entire attachment system. It's easy and I should've just made them all from scratch and saved money.
In the video, he shows using 7/64 for the prussic and 1/8 for the main line. If the 7/64 is full buried, wouldn't the diameter of the rope then be out of ratio? About to bite the bullet on these and make my own attachments.
I dont think the 80% rule works for Amsteel. The video is correct.
Good to know. Just ordered 12 of the DIY ones without the pack. I should be able to fit these in some pouches on the side of my saddle. No fidgeting with a backpack to get to my climbing method.