Preferred rope for one sticking

[OH Bow Hntr.]

I was searching the site for my answer but gave up. My situation is that I am using a Gri Gri Plus Belay that calls for 8.5 -11mm rope. I currently am using Sterling HTP Static 10mm rope. My aggrivation using this rope is how it wont stay choked around the tree when I am making a move and climbing up the stick. Seems like as soon the tension is off the rope it relaxes and slides down the tree to my stick. I am wondering if other ropes like say Canyon C-IV or whatever others are using are more limber or plyable that will stay choked and in position better during climbing. The HTP Static rope is fairly stiff. Thanks for any replies.

Ron

 

[drpike22]

You could use a Nite ize gray tie from your link to the rope or go hi tech and get an Ohm tether keeper. Lots of other possibilities but remember to disengage whatever you use before trying to release the rope with your pull down cord. I don't think any rope will stay in place without help. The one I had the most luck with is Predator rope. It is good rope but thick and heavy. I think it's 11.4 mm. If you are using a Gri Gri + with 8mm rope be sure to get the Gri Gri + to engage and use a backup like an auto block or some other friction hitch. I don't think thrvGri Gri is rated for 8mm rope. I use it at my own risk but use an auto block connected to the rope below the Gri Gri +and my saddle. I also make sure it is engaged because it can slip when not under tension I back up any ascending and rappelling device just to on the safe side.

 

[OH Bow Hntr.]

You could use a Nite ize gray tie from your link to the rope or go hi tech and get an Ohm tether keeper. Lots of other possibilities but remember to disengage whatever you use before trying to release the rope with your pull down cord. I don't think any rope will stay in place without help. The one I had the most luck with is Predator rope. It is good rope but thick and heavy. I think it's 11.4 mm. If you are using a Gri Gri + with 8mm rope be sure to get the Gri Gri + to engage and use a backup like an auto block or some other friction hitch. I don't think thrvGri Gri is rated for 8mm rope. I use it at my own risk but use an auto block connected to the rope below the Gri Gri +and my saddle. I also make sure it is engaged because it can slip when not under tension I back up any ascending and rappelling device just to on the safe side.

Thanks for the reply. I do use a Nit Ize once settled at my final height. I am talking about fighting the falling rope while climbing, during a "Move". The Gri Gri+ Specs say 8.5 -11mm but is "optimized for 8.9 to 11mm."

 

[Equinox631]

You could change your loop and make it into a bull hitch.

 

[DB4x4]

Try using a spare prusik as a "stopper knot" as shown here:

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Slide your girth hitch up, then slide the prusik up. Pull down on the prusik loop to load and set it. Should stay in place and hold your main rope where you want it.

When you're ready for the next tether move, slide prusik down, move tether up, slide prusik up, pull and set.

Once you get to height, that prusik can act as a grab handle when you want to adjust your tether or pick a wedgie.

If you rappel, just remember to remove the prusik right before you come down... Otherwise, getting your rope out of the tree will be a pain.

 

[boyne bowhunter]

I use a Celtic slip knot as described by @always89y below. Probably just as good of an option would be the stiff, snug fitting rubber washer option. Now to be clear I'm one sticking on a short tether (9mm Canyon/Camo Elite rope) and not breaking out my rappel rope until I'm ready to get down. However, that should be a worse case for a drooping tether since the tension on the girth hitch is less with the short tether. Since I went to to the sliding stopper I've had almost zero issues with the tether drooping. It really doesn't take much tension to keep the girth hitch engaged so it is still easy to pull out when it comes time to pull out your rope.

Quick Link Stopper Knot

Still trying to lock down my quick link. The overhand twist works fairly well but does tend to flip the quick link. Decided to try a Celtic Slinding Stopper Knot and it works great. Just have to remember to slide it down when rapelling to retrieve the rope. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

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[Iron_llama]

I use a bungee loop. One of these things:


I Prussic it to my line just inside of the Delta link. In this picture (not mine, swiped from @SnakeEater ) it's a few inches to the right of the 'biner (I use a delta link). I pass the ball through and slide the bungee to the right, to tighten it down. Rope goes nowhere.



I just have to remember to remove the ball and attach my pulldown line before I rappell or I'm climbing the tree again.

I've tried the gear tie and I wasn't happy with it. Never tried the Ohm or clothespins or other methods.

 

[Iron_llama]

Also check this thread:

Preventing tether slide

Since we were stuck inside all day Sunday because of the tropical storm, I started fooling with saddle stuff and I think I came up with an idea to keep the tether from sliding down the tree. For some of us, its either not legal or undesirable to screw anything into a tree. I made a little bungie...

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[OH Bow Hntr.]

Thanks for the replies, A lot of good suggestions, I am liking the Prussik option, I thought maybe it was just the stiff rope I was using. Seems this is a common issue.

 

[phatkaw]

Thanks for the replies, A lot of good suggestions, I am liking the Prussik option, I thought maybe it was just the stiff rope I was using. Seems this is a common issue.

I have a few different tethers that I don't use because they slide down constantly.
Thought about making bridges out of them but there are so many better ropes available to us why settle for sumthin' you don't like.

C-IV is an awesome rope that will work with your Gri Gri...

 

[drpike22]

I use a bungee loop. One of these things:
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I Prussic it to my line just inside of the Delta link. In this picture (not mine, swiped from @SnakeEater ) it's a few inches to the right of the 'biner (I use a delta link). I pass the ball through and slide the bungee to the right, to tighten it down. Rope goes nowhere.

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I just have to remember to remove the ball and attach my pulldown line before I rappell or I'm climbing the tree again.

I've tried the gear tie and I wasn't happy with it. Never tried the Ohm or clothespins or other methods.

The Ohm works great and serves more than one function. The only downside is the price.

 

[Apex7]

Rope I use on my GRIGRI PLUS is Canyon elite and C-IV with a quick leak and a Flexi ohm tether keeper.