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Question on judo points (small game)

I shot a squirrel with one of the hard rubber bludgeon tips in the front shoulder. It fell over and laid there for 5 minutes then got up and ran off with my arrow still sticking in it. The arrow finally fell out and the squirrel (I assume) lived another day. I have now gone to the tips with the wires on although I haven't taken any shots with them.
 
I've liked these g5 SGH tips

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I shot a squirrel with a regular field point, the point went through the skin on the bridge of the nose, snapped the animals head back and went through his body. I figured it was dead and went to shake it off my arrow, it wasn't. It started flipping and going nuts while I shook the arrow to get it out, and when it was free to darted up a tree and into nest. It was crazy how it went perfectly between bone and skin on the bridge of its nose. A judo point has more oomph on impact, I'd never shoot a field point at an animal again
I've pinned live squirrels to the ground and had them work the arrow loose and run off. You'd think you could find a blue arrow...

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100 grains on the dot.

I’m thinking they were 8/32 thread, and a 1 inch bolt.

Not sure what they would cost at the hardware, I borrowed these
 
I used some cheap Judo style tips from Amazon. They work great! Killed a Crow at 110 yards just messing around 1 day. Robbed a baby robin out of the nest I had been watching in the back yard. I was shooting the bow. was showing my dad the single point sight. Decided to let it fly, dad thought there was no way in hell I could make that shot. I really did not think I was going to get him, figured it would ruffle his feathers. Then Whack..... Most impressed I have ever seen my dad. Miss him.

They work great for keeping the arrow so you can see them.
 
ACE hex heads are what I use....well, I’ve used most all of them. With a heavy arrow and 250 FPS, it’s kinda overkill. I can short draw a trad bow if necessary. Judos are mostly for birds but I only have the large ones with the 1.5” wing span.

You can also find collars that go behind a field point or BH to limit penetration. Cannot remember who makes them. I’ll try to find them and take a pic.
 
What kind?
Similar to these but not sure about exact brand. Had mine for many years. If I can remember I'll go out to shop tomorrow and see what I have exactly. Screw them in and make the wings flare out. Works perfectly.
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Thanks everybody! Went to 3 Rivers and threw some Ace Hexs, Forge Convertas, and Judos in the cart.

Let's talk about stump shooting for a minute. I'm interested in doing this but it's foreign to me. My experience has always been that when my field tip abruptly stops, my carbon shaft shatters/splinters where the tip and insert smashes back up into the shaft.

@GCTerpfan, you said that you shoot an arrow prior to coming down almost every hunt. Have you lost any arrows due to breakage?
 
Long time judo shooter here. 95% of my practice is stump shooting.
When I got heavier broadheads, I decided to buy another type of stump head (I believe they were Ace?) because they came in heavier weights than a judo. I instantly started shattering the tip of my carbons. I surmise that its because the Ace heads have a diameter that is well outside the diameter of the arrow shaft. I believe that I was getting lateral pressure when the edge of the Ace caught a stone or whatever.
I went back to a judo and discovered that you can customize the weight. Buy glue-on judos and put them on a ferrule of the appropriate weight. Ferrules are available in various weights and materials. Glue-on judos are available in 2 weights. You should be able to create the weight you need.
I'm currently shooting 200gr broadheads so I bought the heavier 11/32" judo and glued them on steel ferrules. That added up to around 220 grains. I ground down the center anvil portion of the tip of the judo and now I have perfect 200 grain judo heads.
I know you can do something similar to achieve 150 grains because thats what I used before I got 200s.
I can't remember which ferrule I used, but the glue-on judo was the lighter 5/16" model.
Keep in mind that I'm shooting trad so my bow isn't creating as much energy as your compound. I would advise adding an outsert which you should probably be using anyway.
And I also often shoot a judo into the ground before I get down. Great practice. And I've never broken an arrow doing so, but I assume there are areas in the country that has more rock than soil.
Judos also make a fantastic rake. I use mine a lot to flick twigs out of my path when sneaking to and from stands. After a couple trips in and out, my access trails are much quieter.
 
Really want an air rifle to harvest small game in the future. However, I'm too poor for that at the moment. While I'm selling stuff and saving up, I started thinking about the feasibly of harvesting small game with judo points or something similar.

Having never used small game heads (judo points or bludgeons), I'd like to get some input on how they perform. I've read good things about the VPA Small Game Thumper and regular wire judos. Guess my biggest concern would be busting up the carbon shaft arrows I worked so hard to build this year. For reference, I'm shooting a 605gr TAW (150gr tip) arrow right at 250fps.

The below shots were from 16yds with an EZV.
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~150 grain judo. 5/16" judo glued on an aluminum ferrule. I can easily take a few grains off with my bench grinder.
I made a 220 grain judo by gluing a 11/32" judo on a steel ferrule. I ground off 20 grains of the very tip. Now they match my 200 grain Samurai. The steel ferrules are hollow so they could actually be made heavier than 220...just fill the ferrule with hot melt or solder or lead shot etc.
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I recommend getting a couple of washers stacked together and screw a field point in to hold them in place. Been doing this for years and there hasn't been any problem
 
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