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Scout, scout, hunt

Robert loper

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I scout more than anything.
As matter of fact 95% of the time inseason scouting brings me more encounters on better animals than anytime.
That being said This is the main reason I went to saddle this year, it is my 3rd time trying saddle in last 13 years.
The ease of maneuvering through the thick and along transitions with a-saddle setup on my back compared to a stand on back,well there is just no comparison.
I love a good treestand and still use it when im going to a known spot im gonna hunt.
I am still on the fence with the stand saddle thing but i admit i have one foot off the fence on the saddle side.
i even sold my assault this week.
Scouting and finding hot sign is usually productive.
Well i will say most times. i think you need to scout an area fully or at least the terrain features thoroughly.
this week i ran into a scenario where i found some great hot fresh sign.
i really made the mistake of overlooking the fact-of how easily accessible this spot was. I know better than this.
In short i hunted this area after scouting it and finding good sign then I stacked a few hunts. Never seen a deer.
i was really wondering and thought. Man all that sign but i never even seen a-doe, fawn or anything.
The last sit i humbled myself kicked rocks all the way back to the truck and then my mind went into a confusion.
What went down? The wing, thermals, tree selection? Nope nope nope
I thought man something is wrong and i dont think it was my fault at all.
well the next morning i went out and scoutedthe area very thoroughly.
i found out what was wrong.
if curious watch the video.
scout scout hunt. My theory is
Scout for other hunters,
Scout for good fresh deer sign
Then if #1 and #2 goals are met. Hunt hard and hunt them down.
 
Seems that area may be worth scouting next year because that other guy certainly didn’t see sh@t and will probably abandon it. However, being easily accessible invites the heard of hunters sometimes.
 
Definitely especially early on. Im thinking with the abundant amount of white oaks snugged up against this bedding area it will be good early on.
Early season here is really quiet.
i will be slipping into this spot in early to mid September next season.
I wouldn't waste anymore time here this year especially after this guy jacked the whole area up.
Most guys here dont really start hunting til mid to late october. Our gun comes in usually the second Friday of November.
Hunter activity did pick up a bit this year i believe because of covid.
Not to bring politics in at all but, I do believe with biden soon to be in office, The economy will eventually take a crap and people will just not be able to afford to hunt much anymore.
 
I crossed a swamp the other day to get to a point far from other access. Nothing. I decided to park along a different road and scout on my way in. 2 other guys were parked there and we talked. I was going in further, so no issues. Nothing. On the way out the place was littered with glow tacks even back that far. Yesterday I crossed the swamp to the ridge, across another swamp to a small ridge only obvious from the ground. Just not any fresh sign. Crossed another bog and found a beat down path going into thick cover on a hillside that screamed bedding. Found a faint trail downwind with a fresh rub and set up. Nothing. I questioned that pounded trail initially and quickly discovered it was a human path that jumped islands to get back there. A blind guy could follow the path it was so well used. When you hunt public that has roads every mile or so, its all pounded.
 
I only hunt public. I find that hunting overlooked areas really pays off. Most guys I talk to are going in a mile or two. Why? Who wants to drag a deer that far? I scout hard, find overlooked areas, and get nice deer. Never go in more than 1/4 mile. Most spots are close to access areas, but people go right by them. It is something to see community spots on public. You’ll see many different colored tacks and ribbons going to the same area, all from different starting points haha! Everyone wants a deer but don’t put in the scouting effort...maybe that’s a good thing though. If there is hunter sign, I avoid it all together...makes for some very good hunting even though overall pressure in the surrounding areas is very high.
 
I only hunt public. I find that hunting overlooked areas really pays off. Most guys I talk to are going in a mile or two. Why? Who wants to drag a deer that far? I scout hard, find overlooked areas, and get nice deer. Never go in more than 1/4 mile. Most spots are close to access areas, but people go right by them. It is something to see community spots on public. You’ll see many different colored tacks and ribbons going to the same area, all from different starting points haha! Everyone wants a deer but don’t put in the scouting effort...maybe that’s a good thing though. If there is hunter sign, I avoid it all together...makes for some very good hunting even though overall pressure in the surrounding areas is very high.
Man amen bro. I am also 109% public.
I absolutely love it.
Ive been the same way your describing how you do it in the past few years but this year ive strayed from that.
Im kinda going back to old habits minus the baiting.
This is giving me the results i had before.
Not the results im looking for now lol
I found a great little buck bed yesterday right along a bridge up against the swamp
The buck is watching access and cars pass by. He heres someone stop or get out of car he bolts.
 
Man amen bro. I am also 109% public.
I absolutely love it.
Ive been the same way your describing how you do it in the past few years but this year ive strayed from that.
Im kinda going back to old habits minus the baiting.
This is giving me the results i had before.
Not the results im looking for now lol
I found a great little buck bed yesterday right along a bridge up against the swamp
The buck is watching access and cars pass by. He heres someone stop or get out of car he bolts.
I see you said you were on the fence between a saddle and a stand. Man, I absolutely would not go back to a stand. I used a climber and dam I cannot believe how much noise that thing made hahaha! One time I got up a tree about 6’, all pumped to hunt, and the dam bottom platform slid down 4’ with me standing on it. After I cleaned myself up, I decided not to completely bash it against a tree and sell it. I then got a tethered saddle and my oh my, it is awesome! Quiet, comfortable....just the ability to move around the whole tree And use it for cover is gold! You can hike and scout all day and not even notice it. God gave us the knowledge to make just an amazing piece of technology!
 
I see you said you were on the fence between a saddle and a stand. Man, I absolutely would not go back to a stand. I used a climber and dam I cannot believe how much noise that thing made hahaha! One time I got up a tree about 6’, all pumped to hunt, and the dam bottom platform slid down 4’ with me standing on it. After I cleaned myself up, I decided not to completely bash it against a tree and sell it. I then got a tethered saddle and my oh my, it is awesome! Quiet, comfortable....just the ability to move around the whole tree And use it for cover is gold! You can hike and scout all day and not even notice it. God gave us the knowledge to make just an amazing piece of technology!
Oh man. Its really growing on me. Im loving it now
 
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