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Sewing Pattern Details on Manufactured Saddles

I was recommending looking at the stitching he used from the pictures in this/your thread. That would be a good stitching method to secure your main life support webbing (the 2 inch webbing).

I used a similar stitch pattern on my build last year. It is buried in my storage unit (moving in a month) and covered with fleece so I can't show it.

The one I made based on the phantom I just used standard box stitches. If you use the Sailrite link as a guide, it comes down to the amount of stitching that will hold. Their findings indicate that it is more the total amount of quality stitching than the shape of the stitch.

The panels or mesh are not life supporting. I just used 4 rows of stitching to secure my mesh to the seat belt webbing.


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I will look at some of the later builds by @biggta5 to see if I can get any other ideas. Did you use bartacks at each end of the patterns as recommended by Sailrite? I thought bartacks must use zig zag stitching but the two manufactured saddles I have show they use straight stitching, for ease of manufacture, I guess.
 
I don't have a machine capable of doing zig zag stitches. That is needed for proper bar tacks.

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Where can I find the Biggta5 thread on how to sew saddles?
Why would emulating commercial saddle manufacturers not be good? They seem to have an interest in making saddles as safe as possible.

I found this thread with pictures. Are these really good stitches?
To be fair that was my very first saddle build ever. I have built at least 20 since then and upgraded sewing machine. The pattern is of my own design and has not changed but the stitching pattern and stitch count has changed . I never said that commercial saddle are not good. My only problem with commercial saddle is if the stitches are not tight then it is not quality and could be a safety factor. I have only owned one commercial sadldle and sat in a few. In knowing that, I haven’t seen any loose stitches.
I have found the diamond stitch pattern with back and forth stitches to be very strong. I’ll post a link to my saddle testing post below. I do not put the back and forth stitch on the ends of the diamond pattern by the loops because I believe it to be over kill. I would be super happy to discuss saddle stitching with you or anybody.
I took no offense to any post. Just wanna help.

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General question with regard to diamond pattern. Does one sew right over a sewn stitch (where the diamond corners meet)? I’d so, what are the implications of that? Can the needle “cut” existing stitch? Is there a technique when crossing stitching? Anything I am missing on this?

Thanks!
 
General question with regard to diamond pattern. Does one sew right over a sewn stitch (where the diamond corners meet)? I’d so, what are the implications of that? Can the needle “cut” existing stitch? Is there a technique when crossing stitching? Anything I am missing on this?

Thanks!
If your talking about here then no. The only stitches that get sewin over are non supportive.
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Let’s see a Cruzer or I think it is called a Mathew Tompkins?


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This is some stitching from the TX5. The stitching that really counts in my opinion is where the main saddle chassis webbing overlaps. I do a total of 12” of overlap and a “W” stitch on each side of the leg straps with a straight stitch bar tack on each end of the bar tack. It’s overkill but it’s the life support of the saddle in my opinion and deserves a little bit of overkill.


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Let’s see a Cruzer or I think it is called a Mathew Tompkins?


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Here’s a pic of the other side. I use size 207 polyester thread (Eddington) when sewing the webbing onto the saddle. I really like the thread from thethreadexchange.com. Qualthread in my opinion.
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To be fair that was my very first saddle build ever. I have built at least 20 since then and upgraded sewing machine. The pattern is of my own design and has not changed but the stitching pattern and stitch count has changed . I never said that commercial saddle are not good. My only problem with commercial saddle is if the stitches are not tight then it is not quality and could be a safety factor. I have only owned one commercial sadldle and sat in a few. In knowing that, I haven’t seen any loose stitches.
I have found the diamond stitch pattern with back and forth stitches to be very strong. I’ll post a link to my saddle testing post below. I do not put the back and forth stitch on the ends of the diamond pattern by the loops because I believe it to be over kill. I would be super happy to discuss saddle stitching with you or anybody.
I took no offense to any post. Just wanna help.

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I know this is off topic but the saddle pictured here inspired me to ask about the shape and dimensions.

I tried a piece of fleece with a rope girthed to each end as a saddle over my rch just to test it out this year. Now I want something more comfortable because I think I will like this with more comfortable gear.

What are the dimensions of this saddle pictured and what shape is popular?

If there are other threads I should read please direct me.

Thanks
 
I know this is off topic but the saddle pictured here inspired me to ask about the shape and dimensions.

I tried a piece of fleece with a rope girthed to each end as a saddle over my rch just to test it out this year. Now I want something more comfortable because I think I will like this with more comfortable gear.

What are the dimensions of this saddle pictured and what shape is popular?

If there are other threads I should read please direct me.

Thanks
You won’t get any more comfortable than in a fleece saddle, only more functionality. Check out the DIY section, there are a couple great builds at the top now.
 

Thanks. That is super detailed and I am first curious about the basic shape. I am thinking of sticking with the fleece over my RCH but wanted to cut it to a more comfortable shape than just a yard of fabric tied at the ends.

I have heard football and seen a few on here. What basic shape do you like and starting dimensions?

Thanks.
 
You won’t get any more comfortable than in a fleece saddle, only more functionality. Check out the DIY section, there are a couple great builds at the top now.

Thanks.

If anyone has a favorite and could lay it flat with a tape measure next to it that would be an awesome start.
 
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