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Squirrels said:
I’m running a size 23 needle and 138 thread for saddles, packs, and life supporting webbing applications. A 19 and 92 thread for accessories.


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What is needle class versus size? Googling now as I post the question. 1584024233765.png
 
Homebrew454 said:
That (needle class) would depend on what your machine needs. Each machine uses a different size/classification.

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And I’m finding that the class also determines type of work. For example I found that 88x9 is a light ball point tip used for sewing knit and synthetic material.
 
Homebrew454 said:
That (needle class) would depend on what your machine needs. Each machine uses a different size/classification.

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Spot on. I will tell you that Juki and the MORON at goldstartool will mislead you about the class needle for a Juki 8700H. If you are buying a new machine you should wait till you get the machine and see what needle class comes with it becasue that is the class the machine was tuned with. Juke and the MORON will tell you the 8700H uses a DBX1 class needle. Yes it will work but mine was shipped with DPX5 (135X5) class and have learned from the guy at sewinggold.com that the DPX5 is the correct needle class for the 8700H, not the a DBX1.
 
I just bought 30 Organ size 20 needles. I have been trying 18 and 19 size. All in universal tip. Aren't ball point needles for loose knit fabrics like sweaters?
 
dbennett said:
Thanks. I have a line on a Domestic rotary 153. Looks like a great machine from my research. Going to look at in an hour or so.
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I just watched a video on that machine on Youtube. He mentioned that this does not use class 15 bobbins but a special size. They may be difficult to find.
 
I tried to order from the Thread Exchange and got stopped by their anti-fraud software. I called and placed an order over the phone. My internet account does not show the order and no email has announced my order as promised. Are they living in the stone age or what?
Edit: My credit card shows a pending order from them.
 
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bj139 said:
I tried to order from the Thread Exchange and got stopped by their anti-fraud software. I called and placed an order over the phone. My internet account does not show the order and no email has announced my order as promised. Are they living in the stone age or what?
Edit: My credit card shows a pending order from them.
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If I remember right they are slow to ship.

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bj139 said:
I tried to order from the Thread Exchange and got stopped by their anti-fraud software. I called and placed an order over the phone. My internet account does not show the order and no email has announced my order as promised. Are they living in the stone age or what?
Edit: My credit card shows a pending order from them.
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I get thread from wawak. Quick delivery and great shipping prices
 
Squirrels said:
I’m running a size 23 needle and 138 thread for saddles, packs, and life supporting webbing applications. A 19 and 92 thread for accessories.


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I just bought some V92 Kevlar and V92 Polyester from TTE. I figure Kevlar for saddles and poly for others. I have several spools of V69 Gutterman upholstery thread from Joann's fabrics which I bought $4 at a time whenever I ordered from there.
 
So I picked up this little beauty today for $25. Domestic rotery 153. Came with cabinet, all foot attachments, button jig and original owner's manual. Oiled it up and she runs like a champ.
 

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bj139 said:
I just bought some V92 Kevlar and V92 Polyester from TTE. I figure Kevlar for saddles and poly for others. I have several spools of V69 Gutterman upholstery thread from Joann's fabrics which I bought $4 at a time whenever I ordered from there.
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I really know nothing about it but have read that Kevlar is not really UV resistant so polyester thread is the best option for a saddle. It might be worth researching this some before using Kevlar for a saddle.


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sdoyle1 said:
I really know nothing about it but have read that Kevlar is not really UV resistant so polyester thread is the best option for a saddle. It might be worth researching this some before using Kevlar for a saddle.


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I am not going to leave it out in the sun so that wold not be a concern.
 
gcr0003 said:
Why are you wanting to use Kevlar so bad? Is it strength benefits? Cost benefits?
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I was thinking that 30lbs per thread breaking strength has to be better than 15lbs per thread. That is at a cost of 6X the price compared to polyester. I did some sewing today that made me re-think V92 thread in polyester with a size 125/20 needle is more than enough. But, if you think about the thread cost per saddle, is twice the strength worth an extra $10, if that? Who knows?
 
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bj139 said:
I was thinking that 30lbs per thread breaking strength has to be better than 15lbs per thread. That is at a cost of 6X the price compared to polyester. I did some sewing today that made me re-think V92 thread in polyester with a size 125/20 needle is more than enough. But, if you think about the thread cost per saddle, is twice the strength worth an extra $10, if that? Who knows?
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The way I see it, polyester is good enough for essentially every piece of life support harness-wear ever fabricated (with the exception of some nylon) and, stitched properly, it will hold enough force that the impact would kill or maim me before it broke. We could also use Kevlar weave for the saddle fabric, but isn’t that overdoing and conferring no more safety benefit to you at all?


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