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[wildmed]

Also just came across a consew 225 for $500, essentially a newer version/clone of the Singer 111W155. Guy says he is open to trades in his ad and has a garage filled with hunting gear in the background... maybe a fellow saddle hunter? Only difference between 225 and 226R is that there is no reverse on the 225, so you have to lock stitch in a bit different way. If it's only $500 and I can make a trade with some of the excess gear I have accumulated, might be able to get a good deal, but Is the lack of reverse a deal breaker? Sorry for so many questions, appreciate all the great advice!

 

[4090Sharps]

Also just came across a consew 225 for $500, essentially a newer version/clone of the Singer 111W155. Guy says he is open to trades in his ad and has a garage filled with hunting gear in the background... maybe a fellow saddle hunter? Only difference between 225 and 226R is that there is no reverse on the 225, so you have to lock stitch in a bit different way. If it's only $500 and I can make a trade with some of the excess gear I have accumulated, might be able to get a good deal, but Is the lack of reverse a deal breaker? Sorry for so many questions, appreciate all the great advice!

Good luck!
It can slow you down a little, but not a deal breaker. I don't have reverse. Would I like one? Totally, but I don't want to pay for the luxury.

 

[skell]

That’s interesting. I’m in WI. I’ll keep that in mind though. I guess it will have to depend on the shape it’s in when I see it in person. Any specific things I should check on a used machine to judge the wear and tear on it?


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Not sure where you are in WI...but this popped up when I searched consew. Might be a decent middle ground...

Consew Sewing Walking Foot Machine

Consew CP206R Portable Walking Foot Sewing Machine This is a portable commercial sewing machine that is a Single Needle, has a Horizontal Oscillating Hook, Reverse, Stitching, Drop Feed, Walking...

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[4090Sharps]

Not sure where you are in WI...but this popped up when I searched consew. Might be a decent middle ground...

Consew Sewing Walking Foot Machine

Consew CP206R Portable Walking Foot Sewing Machine This is a portable commercial sewing machine that is a Single Needle, has a Horizontal Oscillating Hook, Reverse, Stitching, Drop Feed, Walking...

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Other compromise machines that might work as a jack of all trades would be the Singer 20U33 zig zag machine, although it has domestic-like room under the presser foot, or the SailRite LSZ-1

 

[bj139]

For me, the benefits of an industrial, specifically a walking foot industrial, are really simple:
- plenty of room under the needle and foot to feed multiple layers of webbing or thick materials
- power to punch through tough materials without any struggle; thick foam, plastics, as many layers of webbing as you want
- sufficient tension adjustment to handle the above without issue
- multiple layers of material feed easier with a walking foot machine; even more so with a triple feed (needle feed, walking foot, feed dogs)
- can generally handle larger threads easier than a domestic machine
- it's a badass tool

You can get jobs like a saddle done with a domestic machine, but you're usually operating at the outer limits of the machine. You will often find yourself having to hand wheel the machine a lot, or bury the needle before beginning a stitch to get through your materials. You may even have to change your design to adapt to the capabilities of your machine. Take a look at the Tethrd Mantis design, it has multiple areas with 4 layers of nylon webbing and at least one with 5 or 6 layers.

I have been looking at a Craigslist listing for a Mercury M-337 walking foot industrial and a Singer 281-1. I thought I would pull the trigger and offered less than asking price and they agreed and I paid online. I will pick them up next week. I haven't seen them in person. I don't have a table for them. The Mercury looks to be a clone of a Juki. That is the one I was really interested in for the walking foot and it doesn't have an oil pump so it may be manually oiled for convenience. The thing I have been noticing on the videos of industrial machines is the machining of parts seems to be better and the critical parts are thicker steel to better maintain alignment. I will find out if my guess is right over the coming weeks. Any advice?

 

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I have been looking at a Craigslist listing for a Mercury M-337 walking foot industrial and a Singer 281-1. I thought I would pull the trigger and offered less than asking price and they agreed and I paid online. I will pick them up next week. I haven't seen them in person. I don't have a table for them. The Mercury looks to be a clone of a Juki. That is the one I was really interested in for the walking foot and it doesn't have an oil pump so it may be manually oiled for convenience. The thing I have been noticing on the videos of industrial machines is the machining of parts seems to be better and the critical parts are thicker steel to better maintain alignment. I will find out if my guess is right over the coming weeks. Any advice?

Congratulations! I hope they work out well for you. Can't really offer any advice beyond the obvious; get familiar with them and put 'em to work! I remember reading about the Mercury machines when looking for my own, and if I remember right they were out of Japan. Should be nice. Please post some pictures when you pick them up.

 

[wildmed]

I have been looking at a Craigslist listing for a Mercury M-337 walking foot industrial and a Singer 281-1. I thought I would pull the trigger and offered less than asking price and they agreed and I paid online. I will pick them up next week. I haven't seen them in person. I don't have a table for them. The Mercury looks to be a clone of a Juki. That is the one I was really interested in for the walking foot and it doesn't have an oil pump so it may be manually oiled for convenience. The thing I have been noticing on the videos of industrial machines is the machining of parts seems to be better and the critical parts are thicker steel to better maintain alignment. I will find out if my guess is right over the coming weeks. Any advice?

That’s awesome! What is your plan for the table? I am looking at two different Consew 226R-1’s in good condition. I was wondering about building the table and found a great video about building a table with a servo motor and pulley reducer setup for a similar machine. I think I’m going to try to copy this build and do something similar.

Any advice?


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[bj139]

That’s awesome! What is your plan for the table? I am looking at two different Consew 226R-1’s in good condition. I was wondering about building the table and found a great video about building a table with a servo motor and pulley reducer setup for a similar machine. I think I’m going to try to copy this build and do something similar.

Any advice?


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I think I am going to get a brushless servo motor. Several videos I have seen show a brushless has a lot of torque at slow speed while the brushed type does not. I need a bobbin winder and bobbins and a knee lift lever. I will wait till I get the machine to see what I need to make it work.

 

[sdoyle1]

That’s awesome! What is your plan for the table? I am looking at two different Consew 226R-1’s in good condition. I was wondering about building the table and found a great video about building a table with a servo motor and pulley reducer setup for a similar machine. I think I’m going to try to copy this build and do something similar.

Any advice?


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I added the consew csm3000 servo motor to my tacsew t111-155. That was a big improvement over the clutch motor. I could actually control it. I then changed the drive pulley on the servo from 75mm to 45mm and that made it even better for low speed. So then I added a needle positioner and I love it. Set it for needle down and it will stop with needle down every time. One tap on heel of pedal and it goes to needle up. Sewed 80 percent of a saddle the other day and didn’t touch the hand wheel once. This servo motor is a 1 hp motor when most servos are 3/4 hp. I wasn’t sure if it’d make a difference or not but it was only about $40 more than the cheapest 3/4 hp servo I could find so I opted for the 1 hp.


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[bj139]

I have been looking at a Craigslist listing for a Mercury M-337 walking foot industrial and a Singer 281-1. I thought I would pull the trigger and offered less than asking price and they agreed and I paid online. I will pick them up next week. I haven't seen them in person. I don't have a table for them. The Mercury looks to be a clone of a Juki. That is the one I was really interested in for the walking foot and it doesn't have an oil pump so it may be manually oiled for convenience. The thing I have been noticing on the videos of industrial machines is the machining of parts seems to be better and the critical parts are thicker steel to better maintain alignment. I will find out if my guess is right over the coming weeks. Any advice?

I found on Leatherworker.net that the Mercury M-337 is a Japanese clone of a Consew 205rb but without an oil pump so it is manually oiled. At least I have a starting point for information and parts. I found a few manuals for the Consew 205rb and the configuration seems the same. It is a top and bottom feed walking foot although not a needle feed machine but should work well for webbing. I bought both the Singer and Mercury for $155.

Mercury M-337

I recently picked up a fairly pristine Mercury M-337 for not much money. I have added a servo and actually have sewn a belt with it. I know they are lightly regarded Knock offs made by I believe a company named Morse. A couple of questions for Wiz or the rest of you. It did not come with a manuel...

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[Sziggy2.0]

@bj139 is it possible to post a picture of the mercury?

 

[bj139]

@bj139 is it possible to post a picture of the mercury?

 

[Sziggy2.0]

Thank you, are these fairly uncommon? I have been looking at machines for a little while and have not seen/heard of them.

 

[4090Sharps]

I found on Leatherworker.net that the Mercury M-337 is a Japanese clone of a Consew 205rb but without an oil pump so it is manually oiled. At least I have a starting point for information and parts. I found a few manuals for the Consew 205rb and the configuration seems the same. It is a top and bottom feed walking foot although not a needle feed machine but should work well for webbing. I bought both the Singer and Mercury for $155.

Mercury M-337

I recently picked up a fairly pristine Mercury M-337 for not much money. I have added a servo and actually have sewn a belt with it. I know they are lightly regarded Knock offs made by I believe a company named Morse. A couple of questions for Wiz or the rest of you. It did not come with a manuel...

leatherworker.net

What a steal! Well done.

 

[bj139]

Thank you, are these fairly uncommon? I have been looking at machines for a little while and have not seen/heard of them.

I only ever saw this one for sale. I will learn later if I made a mistake by not buying a name brand and spending about 7X the price.

 

[bj139]

Do you think this machine could sew a few saddles? It looks like it could sew a few 1x4's. At 16:00 he is sewing some yellow trucker's strap. I have sewed it recently and it is not difficult to sew. Several of my domestic machines had no trouble sewing it. There is a LOT of space between the threads so the needle has very little resistance.

 

[bj139]

FYI. All metal domestic machines are probably all we need. After all, @always89y only uses a modern Singer 4452.

 

[4090Sharps]

FYI. All metal domestic machines are probably all we need. After all, @always89y only uses a modern Singer 4452.

I watched that and said to myself, "No way in hell my 237 will do that." As noted in the title of that video, that machine has been modified. Here you can see everything he has done to it;

 

[bj139]

I watched that and said to myself, "No way in hell my 237 will do that." As noted in the title of that video, that machine has been modified. Here you can see everything he has done to it;

That looks like a wooden pulley he made.

 

[wildmed]

Yeah it’s a reducer, when you reduce the speed you increase the torque by the same factor


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